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San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple
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Posted on 02/12/2004 12:16:31 PM PST by BurbankKarl

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To: freewilly999999
Not a chance!
41 posted on 02/12/2004 1:23:53 PM PST by puroresu
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To: george wythe
Treaties, which are described in the US Constitution.

Jacques and Pierre achieved wedded bliss in Montreal, they moved to Colorad. Voila, they are not married in the eyes of Colorado or the US of A.

But I don't understand your point. The states are bound by the Constitution through full faith and credit. Treaties made with other nations, are Constitutional but a whole other ball of wax. No relation to each other.

42 posted on 02/12/2004 1:24:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: BurbankKarl; All
Why are these city officials not being ARRESTED for breaking the law??

Why are they not being stopped?

43 posted on 02/12/2004 1:25:36 PM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
Why are they not being stopped?

In a fascist take over, laws don't matter.
America will obey!

44 posted on 02/12/2004 1:28:12 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: BurbankKarl
I can just hear Michael Savage...he will be in rare form today!

You mean he's going to be angry. How is that "rare?"

45 posted on 02/12/2004 1:30:31 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: jwalsh07
My only point that the US government and the US courts pick and choose which marriages are valid all the time, at least in the matter of with foreign marriages.

Why do US courts accept a marriage of two hetero people from Peru, but not a marriage of two gay people from Denmark? Do these treaties explicitaly exclude gay marriage or polygamist marriage?

I don't know the answer, I was wondering if you knew why.

As far as the Full Faith and Credit clause, why is that a Florida concealed carry permit is not accepted in Massachusetts? Who determines which state acts are valid nationwide, and which state acts are valid only inside a state?

46 posted on 02/12/2004 1:30:51 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Why do US courts accept a marriage of two hetero people from Peru, but not a marriage of two gay people from Denmark?

Because homosexuality is not a gender or race.
It's a dysfunctional sex fetish. It's a chosen deviation that requires medical help, not the demoralizing of society to accommodate it.

47 posted on 02/12/2004 1:35:05 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: george wythe
As far as the Full Faith and Credit clause, why is that a Florida concealed carry permit is not accepted in Massachusetts? Who determines which state acts are valid nationwide, and which state acts are valid only inside a state?

Because the courts are populated with liberal activists who pick and choose what laws to legislate from the bench.

48 posted on 02/12/2004 1:35:33 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: expatguy
The insane liberals don't give a damn about The Law - unless they can bend it to their twisted ideas of maximum control of those whose behavior they don't like. Although a clear violation of state law, the forces of evil will find a friendly judge who will grant them any sort of injunction or find any sort of "loophole" in the Cal Constitution that will allow them to proceed on their march to doom. I have no doubt about that at all. The Cal SC is nothing but a rubber stamp organization for those who are the Enemies of Freedom, including the majority of the Cal legislature. Although they have found that the RKBA is not protected by either the California or the US Constitutions, they will have no trouble finding a Constitutional basis for faggot marriage. "The Law is an @ss."
49 posted on 02/12/2004 1:36:31 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: BurbankKarl
The gays don't want marriage and all that goes with it. They want to infuriate decent Americans, moon our Christian beliefs, and head this train wreck to lowering the age of consent to 12 (8 if they can keep Manhattan and Beverly Hills liberals behind them).

The only reason they have gained strength is because of the liberal class who have the propaganda power.

50 posted on 02/12/2004 1:37:08 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: BibChr
San Francisco Officials Marry Gay Couple

I move we put homosexuality back on the list of mental illnesses because there's something seriously wrong with a brain that thinks it has the right not to be offended while deliberately offending and desiring to offend as many as possible.


51 posted on 02/12/2004 1:38:04 PM PST by Dataman
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To: concerned about politics
Why do US courts accept a marriage of two hetero people from Peru, but not a marriage of two gay people from Denmark?

Because homosexuality is not a gender or race. It's a dysfunctional sex fetish. It's a chosen deviation that requires medical help, not the demoralizing of society to accommodate it.

Could such reasoning be used by Alabama to avoid recognizing Massachusetts gay marriages?

52 posted on 02/12/2004 1:39:35 PM PST by george wythe
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To: concerned about politics
Homosexuality is not a gender or race.
It's a dysfunctional sex fetish. It's a chosen deviation that requires medical help, not the demoralizing of society to accommodate it.

53 posted on 02/12/2004 1:39:36 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: jwalsh07
Because the courts are populated with liberal activists who pick and choose what laws to legislate from the bench.

That is the big problem here, from my perspective.

When I read in Lawrence that the US Supreme Court had used European law to justify their opinion, I was flabbergasted.

I expected the SCOTUS justices to use some subterfuge explaining away their controversial decision, but I was taken aback at their brazenness in invoking foreign law.

The way I see it, if President Kerry appoints a couple of new justices to the SCOTUS, the new-and-improved SCOTUS will feel free to use European law and the UN Human Rights Charter as de facto world constitutions, overriding our humble but time-tested US Constitution.

54 posted on 02/12/2004 1:45:42 PM PST by george wythe
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To: george wythe
Could such reasoning be used by Alabama to avoid recognizing Massachusetts gay marriages?

It SHOULD be used to defend the American people through out the entire country.
Propaganda has stated homosexuals are "normal", and "just like us", but there are no species of plant or animal on the planet Earth that's naturally homosexual. This small group of dysfunctionals has created "The Big Lie" that has to be exposed for what it is.

55 posted on 02/12/2004 1:46:18 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: george wythe
Right on the money George.

The two issues that are the most improtant for me are getting conservatives on the judiciary and continuing to hunt down and kill jihadists. Everything else flows from that.

56 posted on 02/12/2004 1:47:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: concerned about politics; All
America will obey!

At this moment is looks like Californians will obey. Obey the will of their new masters who have taken matters and the law into their own hands.

Ultimately who is to blame, the people who trample you or the people who allow themselves to be trampled.

Liberals are taking ACTION now in California and the conservatives are TALKING.

57 posted on 02/12/2004 1:48:05 PM PST by expatguy
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To: 45Auto
Coming next - full blown charges by the queers of hate crimes committed by Christians and others who simply say they oppose gay marriage. Forcing ministers, priests and pastors to perform marriage ceremonies and discrimination charges if they refuse.
58 posted on 02/12/2004 1:48:20 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: george wythe
And God forbid Hillary gets elected. She'll insist on having her image on every street corner, billboard and building across the country, like they used to do in the communist countries and Saddam did in Iraq.
59 posted on 02/12/2004 1:51:19 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: 3catsanadog
Wow. Amazing. We're witnessing a coup d'etat here folks. The question is, will we do anything about it?
60 posted on 02/12/2004 1:51:59 PM PST by Dalan
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