(South Dakota) State House passes bill outlawing abortion

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[plain talk]

I'm not and it won't.

[Between the Lines]

House Bill 1191, sponsored by Rep. Matt McCaulley, says the legislature determined that based on the best scientific and medical evidence, life begins at fertilization

If this is what the bill says, then it is also outlawing some forms of contraception like the pill.

[presidio9]

It is stupid. One way to ensure that the Republican party loses the gains it has made and is banished to the wilderness for a while, is to see Roe v. Wade overturned.

What makes you say that? Have voters ever turned out on a national scale to support abortion? Sure, a staunch pro-life policy would guarantee losses in NY, Mass, and Cal, but Bush would likely have lost those states anyway. Americans favor limiting abortion by a large margin.

[jgrubbs]

homosexual marriage, Pledge of Allegiance/Boy Scout banning and TV nudity and violence

If these are the most important issues to the new conservatives, I don't want to be a part of them. Abortion is murder, the fact that we have Pro-Choice Republicans and even Pro-Choice FReepers shows that TRUE conservative principles mean nothing anymore.

[jgrubbs]

If a bill is passed outlawing abortion, many Republican women would start voting Democrat.

So they could butcher children?

Your statements backup my feelings about the moral decline of the Republican party, and the lack of any chance of restoring the GOP to the conservative principles it once held dear.

[presidio9]

We live in a centrist society

Really? Seems to me that the state that just outlawed abortion has two Democrat Senators. My view is that people who are pro-life are much more likely to go the polls on this issue than people who are pro abortion. Maybe abortion has never been the "centrist" issue leftists have made it out to be. It has never been put forward as a national election issue. Legalized abortion was legislated by the Court.

[Aquinasfan]

Also, these states would probably have high rates of illegal abortions.

That's doubtful, since the whole coat hanger thing was made up by Dr. Bernard Nathanson and the pro-abortion-legalization crowd back in the early '70s. He's admitted it since repudiating his former position.

You're right about individual states legalizing it. But the situation would be far better than what we have now. Besides, you're buying the media propaganda about American support for abortion. The majority of people oppose abortion, and that's after 30 years of steady pro-abortion propaganda. Shining light on the issue will change everything. How do I know? I can tell you that 85% of women who go into a crisis pregnancy center planning on aborting their child (they want confirmation of the pregnancy before handing over $300 to Planned Parenthood) change their minds after seeing the ultrasound (as opposed to a 10% turnaround rate when they don't see the child).

[.45MAN]

PING

[Aquinasfan]

I'm not and it won't.

Matthew 25:40

"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

[weegee]

If the Supreme Court takes it up as a human rights issue, then the denial of life to these infants would force it to be criminal in EVERY state.

If sodomy is legal everywhere then certainly the gestation stage of life is the same everywhere too.

[grellis]

In case anyone is interested in the teaching of the Catholic Church on this matter: It is the duty of every legislature to pass a law outlawing abortion, and imposing a penalty for performing abortions, one that is commensurate with the crime of homicide. It is also the duty of every governor and D.A. to enforce such laws.

And yet Michigan's self-proclaimed "Catholic" governor still has the raw nerve to accept communion on Sundays.

[grellis]

I would happily live out my days in the wilderness if it meant that Roe v. would be overturned.

[grellis]

Have voters ever turned out on a national scale to support abortion?

Thank you for bringing this point up. Voters, after all, had nothing to do with Roe v. Wade. I wish it were put to a vote. I may be wearing rose-tinted glasses but I do believe that abortion would be outlawed if it were left up to the people to decide.

[presidentsfriend]

This is FANTASTIC news!We are either prolife or we are not.I believe if we make this a issue its good for our side.I want it to be a issue because its the right thing to do,but it`s also a good issue for the president politically.If there was to be a real debate about abortion I think you will see that there have been changes in opinion toward the right side,our side.John Kerry and Tom Daschel will not do well on this issue.

[plain talk]

Far more lives will be lost if Kerry is elected President and appoints Supreme Court Justices. Best hope is for Bush to be re-elected and appoint conservative justices. So I believe this futile effort is going nowehere, is counterproductive to Bush's reelection and could actually cost more lives. I understand where you are coming from but there can be different strategies for accomplishing the same objective. The Lord equipped us with brains and knows our hearts.

[contessa machiaveli]

if someone is pro-choice he/she shouldn't be part of the republican party? shouldn't vote for g. bush?

[Col Freeper]

"It is up to us...to work together for progress and humanity so that our grandchildren, when they look back at us, can truly say that we not only preserved the flame of freedom, but cast its warmth and light further than those who came before us." -Ronald Reagan

(one of your favorite quotes from your profile)

I doubt that President Reagan was only talking about grandchildren that were lucky enough not to be aborted.

[jgrubbs]

if someone is pro-choice he/she shouldn't be part of the republican party? shouldn't vote for g. bush?

If someone is pro-choice they can be a part of any party they want to and vote for whoever they want to, but it doesn't change the fact that they support butchering innocent children, and are WRONG!

There ARE absolute truths in life, and murdering innocent children IS absolutly WRONG!