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To: LS
"Why include taxes in any price?"

As an experiment I suggest visiting any store in Pennsylvania in a town that borders Delaware. In Delaware there is no sales tax, in Pennsylvania it is 6%. Compare the prices of taxed items. Taxes effect prices.

And with FUEL -- even an end-user sales tax acts to a great degree like a value-added tax driving up the prices of everything that takes fuel to make or deliver. That is, everything.

And a barrel of sweet crude in the 60's was what -- 10-13 dollars, I'm guessing, might be high. Today? A barrel of sweet runs 25-30. And what the heck is a 1969 dollar? My *estimate* of rates of inflation to adjust historic dollars with is just that -- MY ESTIMATE. There are only subjective estimates.

Charts in actual dollars are more honest. And if you like fanciness, ratios of one commodity to another -- say gold/oil, or copper/oil, or eggs/oil are more honest. *Adjusted* dollars are ALWAYS more political than honest.

34 posted on 02/12/2004 3:35:34 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
Nah. Try a very good book by Scott Dirks called "The Value of a Dollar." It's a historical look at exactly what a dollar has purchased---thousands of items---in each decade.

Gas is still cheap. Taxes can never be factored into a price because as YOU RIGHTLY point out, they are purely political, and have nothing to do with the product itself.

Gas is cheap.

35 posted on 02/12/2004 4:29:38 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrack of news.)
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To: bvw
What about the so called "Specially blended Boutique feuls" that Bush and "his" EPA buddies are still forcing selected areas of the country to use, remember MTBE? Carcinogen ring a bell for you? Why are the oil companies exempt from replacing the over 25,000 leaking fuel tanks conviently scattered around the country,Oil companies resisted the ANWR drilling proposal in fact there is more oil in the Gulf of Mexico than Alaska, Bush let ANWR go at the behest of the oil companies further increasing our reliance on the stinking Islamo-nazi Arabs. Kerry would be much worse in this area but Bush and the glorious neo-cons are on the "One-World Bandwagon" they are just better at keeping
wealth happy with their performance. Why is Bush suppporting communists like China ?I would say they were much
more henious than Saddam, Bush also seems to cow tow to the job export boom also and the illegal alien import boom used to drive US wages down which makes only the stock market happy, sooner than later the one worlder chickens are coming to roost and then only the super rich are gonna get richer.It wont matter who the President is since both parties seem to think every aspect of governance has to be filtered through the United Nations.
40 posted on 02/13/2004 5:20:43 AM PST by claptrap
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