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To: Augermc
Oh, how woefully misinformed you are.

I didn't say you said he was AWOL. I said not to bring that crap up. Glad you didn't.

Her point was that Cleland was voted out of office for his record. Democrats have insisted that it was SOLELY because of the so-called attack on his patriotism.

Ann's point simply amplifies the democrat rhetoric is fixated on Mr. Cleland's missing limbs, regardless of how he got them, as somehow this excuses the man's voting record in the Senate.

The two don't have anything to do with each other.

Sir, you can disparage the National Guard as much as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that George Bush served and apparently, served honorably. As to whether or not the Air National Guard was an "out", I think the 111 National Guard members that died and the thousands that were wounded fighting in Vietnam would agree.

I will concede that John Kerry and Max Cleland acted heroically (even though there is some evidence that Kerry's "three purple hearts and out" strategy allowed him to skate by with only 4 months in country and his acts of bravery were 1 from utter stupidity).

EVEN if I conceded that George Bush went into the National Guard to avoid going to Vietnam AND that Max Cleland was a brave soldier AND that John Kerry was a brave skipper...

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEING PRESIDENT?

If you still want to harp on George Bush's service in the National Guard, then you have to be willing to look at Kerry's despicable acts after he returned. His support of the People's Peace Treaty is likely to have resulted in the continued torture and/or murder of U.S. soldiers.

Don't we need to factor that into Kerry's image? Don't we need to consider that the man whose name I have strapped on a stainless steel bracelet around my wrist every day of my life may still be MIA because of Kerry's support for this doctrine that the North Vietnamese and Kerry embraced?

My father and 2 uncles served in-country, truly slogging it out with the VC and North Vietnamese. My uncle was a Green Beret who served 3 tours. He STILL has shrapnel in his back. He has headaches every day (EVERYDAY) of his life. He was award 7 Purple Hearts with Valor, 3 bronze stars, and a silver star. He was a POW. He was tortured daily. Wounded, he escaped his captors, returning to fight again.

When he returned and was discharged, he got a job laying carpet. And then he got on with his life.

Last point. He supports President Bush as our Commander-in-Chief and thinks that John Kerry is a despicable human being for selling out his fellow soldiers.

Say what you want about the National Guard then. Gloss over Kerry's despicable actions back then. That really doesn't matter. What matters is who is best fit NOW to serve as the Commander-in-Chief.

George Bush has shown that he makes decisions.

And, before you start rambling on about "President Bush lied, blah, blah, blah", check the following 2 quotes out:

"It would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge, or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world. He has as much as promised it." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

Now, try to click on the link. Interesting, Mr. Kerry has removed those quotes from his website. How conveinent.
62 posted on 02/16/2004 8:40:49 PM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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To: mattdono
Correction: "...fighting in Vietnam would disagree."
63 posted on 02/16/2004 8:42:15 PM PST by mattdono (Big Arnie: "Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags.")
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