[11th Earl of Mar]

I wonder what the left would say if Bush had 'war injuries' from crashing his National Guard plane on the runway?

[w8mm]

Or being run over by a tug on the way to a beer blast?

[The Wizard]

thank you for clearing up this heroic "incident"

[anniegetyourgun]

Of course, they would have Molly Ivins to suggest that he was "too stupid to fly."

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends.

Friends don't let friends drink and detonate.

[Arrowhead1952]

There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight.

UGH! Hey Max, when the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is NOT our friend!

[Harris]

Wasn't the war over by January 1973? Essentially America was reducing its role in Vietnam big time by during the period Bush was in the Guard.

[Cuttnhorse]

Already posted with a bunch of discussion

[2banana]

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up.

Hold muh beer alert!

[mhking]

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up.

"OOOooooo...beer.....

What's this thing?

[blam!] D'oh!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[scotiamor]

Ann Coulter also forgot to mention that war hero John Kerry also got out of service 6 months early, using an obscure navy regulation. The Democrats will rue the day they brought this up.

To me, the way to defeat John Kerry is to bring forth the first Mrs. Kerry and her two children. During the divorce or just after, John Kerry tried to bribe the Catholic church into granting an annulment - which has the effect in Catholic church of making his wife a whore and his children bastards. What kind of a guy would do that to his own kids?
Not the type of guy we want as president!

[Tacis]

Geez, the rumors I hear are that Max was as much of an a**hole then as he is today and that he was on the receiving end of a fragmentation grenade tossed by other Americans. His own people "fragged" him. Could be a false rumor, but the incident reports of the time would prove that it wasn't true.

Ann's story also has another questionable issue in it. How many reasonably trained military folks, physically in Viet Nam would actually have picked up a grenade off the ground as though it were a bright coin? The rumor is that he didn't pick up the grenade as he was "going" to drink beer but that he picked it up AFTER he had had a whole bunch of beer, something he did often then and, I am told, still does often. Again, the records will show whether Max was drunk at the time and how much of a drinking problem he has to this very day.

[PJ-Comix]

Nothing unusual about early outs. In the early 70s a lot of Navy personnel were getting discharges 6-12 months early because of ships being decommissioned. Also Bush's jet was already obsolete and he didn't have enough time left to train him on a newer jet. And I bet a lot of other people in the Air National Guard got the same early outs for the same reason. What were they supposed to do? Pay people for doing jobs no longer necessary?

[Savage Beast]

It's ridiculous to expect honor or truth from Democrat politicians--or from their henchpeople and cheerleaders in the "Newsmedia", Hollywood, academia, et al. The real problem is getting the message of truth and honor to the American electorate dispite the endless, relentless barrage of propaganda. We must do it. The fate of the United States and of the world depends upon it.

[Huck]

War is dangerous. I don't care if a soldier gets hurt changing a tire or using the latrine, if they put themselves in harm's way, they deserve our respect, and if they get hurt while serving, they deserve it even more.

[hobbes1]

Ooops, Ping!

[Republican Red]

I worked for the State of Georgia at the same time Cleland was Ga Sec. of State. He was hated by his department. I heard such terrible stories about what a miserable human being he was. People wanted to like him and tried to like him but it was impossible.

I have heard many versions of how he lost his limbs. My supervisor at the time, a big-shot department head, told me his own troops did it to him.

Personally, I don't care how it happened. The man gave service to the US. However, I have never given him my vote.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

ping

[buzzsaw6]

On "Hardball," Cleland testily remarked: "I just know a whole lot of veterans who would have loved to have worked things out with the military and adjusted their tour of duty." (He knows one--Al gore)

He knows two: Kerry got out early, too, to run for congress.

[quantim]

(And nine times more than Bill Clinton, Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer did during the same period.)

Well, not exactly.  9 x 0 = 0, not 9!   But we get the point, LOL.

[ClintonBeGone]

Wow. This is certain to be explosive. Gotta love Ann, she's got one hell of a pair of grenades!