[sasafras]

I agree with you Latin Am. countries need to be reformed but it cant happen when we allow them to come here. Reform happens when people get fed up and change their govt. from the inside out not from the outside in. The current immigrants from Mexico do not care about becoming American - America is a melting pot and a wonderful country but if we dont assimilate these immigrants and enforce American values (Im not sure we have any anymore btw) then this country will continue to be divided and ultimately we are all doomed. Lets face it America is the hope of the world for freedom.

[joef]

Amazing. Anyone here that seriously considers themselves a small government fiscal conservative and votes for Bush is either out of it or a hypocrite.

Government growth has been much faster under W. than it was under Clinton.

The only balanced budget in the last quarter century was passed by Clinton.

You may not like the man, but the fact is that a Dem in the white house and a republican congress did good things. Bush has undone a good number of those things. His budget projections, deficit projections, job forecasts...everything his admin predicts about the economy has been horribly wrong. Why in the world would you trust him to fix things at this point?

Look past the letter next to the name for 5 minutes, look at what actually happens. You want to stand on principle? Fine. Stand on ones that matter. Fixing the budget, slowing government growth. Those matter. The letter next to the name is just a bunch of bull compared to that.