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LOL, but Jefferson's not running ;-)

It's all political BS.

At the end of the day, you're going to vote for your ideology.

Bush's Vietnam isn't important to me. If every conservative were to stand up and say that- it wouldn't even be an issue. Instead, we play the game just like they do. Point- counterpoint. They make it an issue, we run with that issue just like them.

It's BS.

There are some pretty serious things going on in the world at the moment. Really serious things. If I thought Kerry was better suited to deal with them, his war record would be irrelevant to me just as Bush's is.

I don't think the democratic party as a whole is sane enough to deal with the problems we face. I am not altogether confident in Republican leadership but failing that- who is there? Labour and Tony Blair? The Tories?

These issues have to get addressed NOW. Not next election cycle. The terrorist nuclear threat isn't going to go away- it's only going to get worse.

If it comes right down to it- screw immigration, screw taxes, screw outsourcing of jobs, screw medicare, screw Social Security screw all of that crap- it's irrelevant.

It's irrelevant.

What good is Social Security and Border Control if New York is a radioactive wasteland?

THAT is what we're faced with. This is worse than the Cuban missile crisis. This is worse than Soviet nukes. This is worse than anything else we've ever been faced with. This is dead serious.

The dems just aren't up to the job. Point blank.

If they were, I'd vote for 'em, that's just how important it is to me.

Anybody that would not vote for Bush at this point in human history hates humanity. Because humanity is exactly what's at stake.

You pretty well summed it up. I guess where I might differ is that going back to the Dem Party's origins as the party of slavery, I don't think it can ever be purified. The Bible says that a bad tree can't give good fruit, and I think that's the case with the Dems. You can count on one hand the number of Dems who have ever "done the right thing" at their time in history---Grover Cleveland, Harry Truman (sometimes) and Kennedy (occasionally). All the rest have been corrupt and, well, if not evil, willing to tolerate evil on a massive scale.

Any redemption or "check" for the Republicans is going to have to come from an energized (and moral) independent party to its right.