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Ann Coulter: Cleland drops a political grenade
Universal Press Syndicate ^ | February 12, 2004 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:11:19 PM PST by alloysteel

Former Sen. Max Cleland is the Democrats' designated hysteric about George Bush's National Guard service. A triple amputee and Vietnam veteran, Cleland is making the rounds on talk TV, basking in the affection of liberals who have suddenly become jock-sniffers for war veterans and working himself into a lather about President Bush's military service. Citing such renowned military experts as Molly Ivins, Cleland indignantly demands further investigation into Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard.

Bush's National Guard service is the most thoroughly investigated event since the Kennedy assassination. But the Democrats will accept only two possible conclusions to their baseless accusations: (1) Bush was "AWOL," or (2) the matter needs further investigation.

Thirty years ago, Bush was granted an honorable discharge from the National Guard, which would seem to put the matter to rest. But liberals want proof that Bush actually deserved his honorable discharge. (Since when did the party of Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd get so obsessed with honor?)

On "Hardball" Monday night, Cleland demanded to see Bush's pay stubs for the disputed period of time, May 1972 to May 1973. "If he was getting paid for his weekend warrior work," Cleland said, "he should have some pay stubs to show it."

The next day, the White House produced the pay stubs. This confirmed what has been confirmed 1 million times before: After taking the summer off, Bush reported for duty nine times between Nov. 29, 1972, and May 24, 1973 – more than enough times to fulfill his Guard duties. (And nine times more than Bill Clinton, Barney Frank or Chuck Schumer did during the same period.)

All this has been reported – with documentation – many times by many news organizations. George magazine had Bush's National Guard records 3 1/2 years ago.

All available evidence keeps confirming Bush's honorable service with the Guard, which leads liberals to conclude ... further investigation is needed! No evidence will ever be enough evidence. That Bush skipped out on his National Guard service is one of liberals' many nondisprovable beliefs, like global warming.

Cleland also expressed outrage that Bush left the National Guard nine months early in 1973 to go to Harvard Business School. On "Hardball," Cleland testily remarked: "I just know a whole lot of veterans who would have loved to have worked things out with the military and adjusted their tour of duty." (Cleland already knows one – Al Gore!)

When Bush left the National Guard in 1973 to go to business school, the war was over. It might as well have been 1986. Presidents Kennedy and Johnson had already lost the war, and President Nixon had ended it with the Paris peace accords in January. If Bush had demanded active combat, there was no war to send him to.

To put this in perspective, by 1973, John Kerry had already accused American soldiers of committing war crimes in Vietnam, thrown someone else's medals to the ground in an anti-war demonstration, and married his first heiress. Bill Clinton had just finished three years of law school and was about to embark upon a political career – which would include campaign events with Max Cleland.

Moreover, if we're going to start delving into exactly who did what back then, maybe Max Cleland should stop allowing Democrats to portray him as a war hero who lost his limbs taking enemy fire on the battlefields of Vietnam.

Cleland lost three limbs in an accident during a routine noncombat mission where he was about to drink beer with friends. He saw a grenade on the ground and picked it up. He could have done that at Fort Dix. In fact, Cleland could have dropped a grenade on his foot as a National Guardsman – or what Cleland sneeringly calls "weekend warriors." Luckily for Cleland's political career and current pomposity about Bush, he happened to do it while in Vietnam.

There is more than a whiff of dishonesty in how Cleland is presented to the American people. Terry McAuliffe goes around saying, "Max Cleland, a triple amputee who left three limbs on the battlefield of Vietnam," was thrown out of office because Republicans "had the audacity to call Max Cleland unpatriotic." Mr. Cleland, a word of advice: When a slimy weasel like Terry McAuliffe is vouching for your combat record, it's time to sound "retreat" on that subject.

Needless to say, no one ever challenged Cleland's "patriotism." His performance in the Senate was the issue, which should not have come as a bolt out of the blue inasmuch as he was running for re-election to the Senate. Sen. Cleland had refused to vote for the Homeland Security bill unless it was chock-full of pro-union perks that would have jeopardized national security. ("OH, MY GOD! A HIJACKED PLANE IS HEADED FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!" "Sorry, I'm on my break. Please call back in two hours.")

The good people of Georgia – who do not need lectures on admiring military service – gave Cleland one pass for being a Vietnam veteran. He didn't get a lifetime pass.

Indeed, if Cleland had dropped a grenade on himself at Fort Dix rather than in Vietnam, he would never have been a U.S. senator in the first place. Maybe he'd be the best pharmacist in Atlanta, but not a U.S. senator. He got into office on the basis of serving in Vietnam and was thrown out for his performance as a senator.

Cleland wore the uniform, he was in Vietnam, and he has shown courage by going on to lead a productive life. But he didn't "give his limbs for his country," or leave them "on the battlefield." There was no bravery involved in dropping a grenade on himself with no enemy troops in sight. That could have happened in the Texas National Guard – which Cleland denigrates while demanding his own sanctification.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agitprop; anncoulter; bushhaters; dnctalkingpoints; lyingliars; maxcleland; mediabias; mediaho; shemale; therestofthestory; usefulidiots; wartimeservice
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To: carton253
Again, apparently, the facts of Cleland's injury are not as cut and dry as Coulter would have believe.

Regardless, at the end of the day, Coulter will find herself the focus of derision, using this tactic, than Cleland.

She is the Dems' best friend here.
81 posted on 02/12/2004 6:03:57 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: alloysteel
Atta Girl Ann!!

Ann ain't sceered of no stinking liberal, even if he is a triple-amputee! Get on his ass Ann!

82 posted on 02/12/2004 6:05:13 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Bluntpoint
But Ann gets what she wants, invitations to all the screaming head shows.
83 posted on 02/12/2004 6:05:56 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: TexasCajun
Ann is just keeping Cleland noticed. At the end of the day, the Dems may concede the point that his wounds were non-combat related. They will also point out that they still occurred in VIETNAM not in TEXAS nor ALABAMA!
84 posted on 02/12/2004 6:14:36 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Rutabega
btt
85 posted on 02/12/2004 6:18:58 AM PST by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: carton253
Ann is attacking the spin...not the man

IMHO she is attacking Cleland and doing it in the nastiest, ugliest, most disingenuous fashion possible (again, assuming posts 5 & 18 are accurate).

Cleland was doing his job, taking part in a combat mission. I suppose it classifies as a friendly fire incident, but it was during a combat mission. I don't see where anyone can claim any basis for ridiculing Cleland as regards to his wounds. What has he done or allowed that is the cause for these ugly comments here regarding his wounding?

If it is correct that it was not his grenade then Coulter's entire basis is inaccurate and I can't even imagine the uproar that we would have here on FR if Cleland was a Bush supporter.

This really stinks.

I am not referring to his behavior since VN.

86 posted on 02/12/2004 6:20:27 AM PST by There's millions of'em (John F. Kerry: a decorated VN war criminal.....)
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To: Bluntpoint
The point is that Cleland did not "leave 3 limbs on the battlefield." That is not in dispute.

Cleland is allowing that misrepresentation to give him an "attack" platform. That is not in dispute.

From the posts on this article, Ann is not being held in derision...

I disagree that she's the Dems best friend. I think she is their worst enemy...

87 posted on 02/12/2004 6:20:40 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: There's millions of'em
Well...you have your opinion. Rest easy with it then.
88 posted on 02/12/2004 6:21:52 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: carton253
Ann usually only gets attention for Ann.

There were a dozen alternative ways to "attack" Cleland.

However, those alternatives would not get her invitations to the Bill Maher show or other worthless scream fests.
89 posted on 02/12/2004 6:24:48 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Rutabega
Yeah, you're right. We're better than this. The guy was in a war zone and wound up in a military accident and got 3 limbs blown off. We don't need to hammer the incident. It cheapens our own positions.
90 posted on 02/12/2004 6:25:00 AM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
It makes us look like republican Begalas and Carvilles.
91 posted on 02/12/2004 6:27:07 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: carton253
She is disparaging the fact that he allows the Democrats to misrepresent these particular wounds as sustained on the battlefield when they were not.

What an assinine argument.

So, let's tell the families of 100s that died in Iraq their deaths were less meaningful and were not "sustained on the battlefield". Let's tell the thousands injured in Iraq that they are not heroic injuries.

I get the point. I don't like it. As a vet of the first Gulf War, I don't think I have to and I'll be damned if I sit quietly by and watch the honorable and heroic service of someone I politically disagree with be disparaged and mischaracterized.

Have I made myself crystal clear?

92 posted on 02/12/2004 6:29:30 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (This tagline recently seen at Taglinus FreeRepublicus)
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To: Bluntpoint
What? Did Ann Coulter steal your lollipop or something?
93 posted on 02/12/2004 6:30:16 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: carton253
There you go Mr. Begala(R)!!!
94 posted on 02/12/2004 6:33:49 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: optimistically_conservative
Ooooohhhh!

I can feel your outrage clear over here!

I get the point.

If you get the point...then why reply to me like you don't?

95 posted on 02/12/2004 6:34:09 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: familyofman
Please spare me - Annie is a wasted looking wench. I want Janet or Anna K, real women of substance.

Reno? Quinlan?

96 posted on 02/12/2004 6:37:49 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Bluntpoint
There you go Mr. Begala(R)!!!

Is that an answer?

If it is, you have been ill-served by it.

Want to try again?

97 posted on 02/12/2004 6:37:54 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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To: carton253
Your like Michael Moore, with a republican bent. If people don't share your visceral hatred for something or somebody, their allegience and or their intelligence is questioned.

No more for you!
98 posted on 02/12/2004 6:40:50 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Thommas
Awards, without knowing the person and the events leading to the award, speak little on thier own (although I remain in strict admiration of CMOH recipients). This is sad, but has been historically true, and the context of the award remains more important than the award itself. I am also aware that too many deserving were not awarded for extraneous considerations of rank, race, favoritism and quotas, among others.

You want to question whether Cleland deserved the Silver Star? Be my guest. Just be aware at the level of Silver Star, the citation on the certificate is cookbook, but the write up for justification and orders that accompany the award certificate are more descriptive. There are still some catch phrases and templating, but not the same as the limitation for the actual certificate.
99 posted on 02/12/2004 6:40:52 AM PST by optimistically_conservative (This tagline recently seen at Taglinus FreeRepublicus)
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To: Bluntpoint
No more for you!

Promise?

100 posted on 02/12/2004 6:43:27 AM PST by carton253 (I have no genius at seeming.)
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