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To: MissAmericanPie; Prodigal Son; nopardons
I said they do not have them at present, if they did they would have used them on 9-11.

Hmmmm. I'm not really following you here. You seem to believe that the audience for 9-11 was the USA for the most part. But, that's actually only true for the least part, the USA itself.

The Koran does not encourage outright murder for the sake of murder. It does encourage outright murder for the sake of spreading and maintaining pure ISLAM. These fanatics have a bigger problem to solve right now, this day, besides whatever feelings they have about us.

The problem? The total number of young men willing to die in jihadist operations is not big enough. 9-11 was, for the most part, a signal to western-supported middle eastern governments that they're days are numbered. Because, either way, the Jihadists will win, or democracy (ahem, W's current thoughtful, wise, and reality-based Iraq policy) wins.

Conjoined with that signal is that jihadist operations always have as an objective hero worship for the surviving family members back home - 9-11 is, now, still a huge recruiting drive operation, for what is to comes next.

Nuke weapons, if used, and I think they will be, will be used only to further the overall plan, which is to resume the efforts of global Muslim conquest.

Prodigal Son has it right; you need to get a bit more informed about what motivates these crazy communistic black hearted killers.

fwiw, the Koran emphasizes purify the homeland first .... expect to see Lots and Lots of headlines from Saudi Arabia for awhile, of increasing intensity.

And as for nukes, I'm satisfied the bad guys have the dirty bomb at minimum, likely many.

Once they have enough 'guys' to carry out operations, they'll have no problem setting off a few of those, and sitting back and watching the Great Economic Collapse of the 21st century. (Women and shoe shopping in radioactive malls don't mix well - kind of suppresses the urge to shop overall really).

Then, they'll sit back, and watch with glee while the leftists come to power due to the fact so many people end up out of work. Do you have any idea WHY islamo nutcases (really smart, clever, long-term-planning capable, nutcases) would love to so the USA go red? History - and Afghanistan shows clearly that reds are easy to beat. For before we took that country, they took it from the mighty USSR, and without losing that many men. That alone convinces them someone who is RED is easier to beat than what they're dealing w/ now. Let's be clear - islamo nutcases want Bush beaten this year.

Now, fwiw, I do, in reality, share your feelings of dismay about how our borders are being managed. But, I pretend I'm Bush, and one problem for the future of our United States story is simply not going to go away - getting the majority of hispanics to CONSISTENTLY vote Republican, despite what the economy is doing. Bush, a former governor of TEXAS, gets the reality of this picture.

He is going to make political decisions that first and foremost acknowledge that it is real easy to incite a minority group to vote in an insane manner as a block, year after year, by making little mistakes.

Miss A.P. (and all you 'true' conservatives out there), our country is suffering by bleeding from millions of little mistakes - Bush, not perfect by any means - is at the least accounting for those wounds we conservatives have sat by and let happen. And that makes him more of a conservative than most of us.
337 posted on 02/13/2004 4:24:57 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: gobucks
We have not sat by and let a darn thing happen. We have elected Republicans expecting them to enforce our laws and govern conservatively and by the constitution, and we have been betrayed decade after decade. Now I have had the experience of having a Freeper inform me that the Republican party has never been particularly conservative and that conservatives should vote for them anyway because....

Frankly, it has become obvious to millions of conservatives that the Republican Party has no intention what so ever of ever representing them. In fact, worse than that, the Republican Party has rolled the dice and bet the farm on replacing the conservative branch of their base with hispanics and cross over democrats, in a delicate balancing act designed not to hemmorage conservatives so quickly as to kill themselves off.

These incrimental steps we have engaged in for decades has led to our being a replaceable minority in what we erroneously supposed was our own party. I think each person should be free to make their own decisions as to what reaction to have to these events without the curlish condemnation of those who are merely Republican.

342 posted on 02/13/2004 5:19:38 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: gobucks
BRAVO !

Best post I have ever seen you write! You've come a very long way, in a very short time. It's cogent, factual,and makes your points well. :-)

367 posted on 02/13/2004 2:33:02 PM PST by nopardons
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