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This interview with Alan Keyes should be read in its entirety.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1096038/posts?page=1

Here are the last couple of paragraphs:

***Has this push for gay "marriage" — especially with regard to what's happened in recent days and weeks — put us in a new era?***

Well, I don't know. I think we're in an era where at both a political and social level we're witnessing the dissolution of the republic. I don't know that that's a new era. It's a tragic era. It's an era that our civilization is not likely to survive if we don't deal with these issues in an urgent fashion in order to reestablish the basis for our civilized life and freedom. So, I can't see that this is some new day, no. This is actually the twilight of a day, if we're not careful.

Right now, we are in the midst of a tremendous crisis that will decide the fate of our society.

***Certainly, this is a process that has long been ongoing. I guess what I was wondering was whether this crisis has intensified so greatly that it's brought the issue to a head?***

Yes, I think if there were people who thought that this was not serious, and they weren't paying attention, they ought to pay attention now. This is coming to a head. In this generation, we will decide the fate of the American republic and of the civilization that we know. We can either sit back and let abusive courts and gutless politicians make these decisions, or as citizens who understand what's at stake, we can get involved and demand that steps be taken to act aright. If we do not, this crisis will intensify.

I believe — and this is something I will work to avoid — that a mishandling of this situation will lead to dissolution of our union, because at the end of the day, the Founders put us on a basis that would allow us to handle these questions without confrontation, conflict and violence. These abusive judges and lawless officials are now abandoning that understanding. This is going to have dire consequences for the future of our people.


252 posted on 03/12/2004 9:22:36 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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Hmmm - I guess whatever Seraphim Rex thought would help fight the "gay" agenda, TPTB didn't agree with him/her/it.

Another idea:

Anyone who in their business or professional life has to deal with homosexuals that are claiming that they are "married" and therefore want the honeymoon suite, special deals on car insurance, travel rates, health insurance, or whatever - refuse them. Tell them that legally they aren't married and you can't accomodate (whatever it is they want).

These people need to have their balloon popped. And we need to not kowtow to them. It's worth getting in hot water for this. It's worth even losing our jobs, being called "hater", "bigot", and "homophobe". If we don't stand up against this, we're assisting them.

We need to be on the right side of history.
256 posted on 03/15/2004 2:10:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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Yes, I think if there were people who thought that this was not serious, and they weren't paying attention, they ought to pay attention now. This is coming to a head. In this generation, we will decide the fate of the American republic and of the civilization that we know. We can either sit back and let abusive courts and gutless politicians make these decisions, or as citizens who understand what's at stake, we can get involved and demand that steps be taken to act aright. If we do not, this crisis will intensify.

I believe — and this is something I will work to avoid — that a mishandling of this situation will lead to dissolution of our union, because at the end of the day, the Founders put us on a basis that would allow us to handle these questions without confrontation, conflict and violence. These abusive judges and lawless officials are now abandoning that understanding. This is going to have dire consequences for the future of our people.


I'm concerned about that too. I remember as far back as the 1970's, my father said that "America will not survive as a political entity" and even said "we will see a second Civil War" and I would be around to see it (I'm 37, will be 38 in July). Dunno if he really saw something coming or was reaching for the tin-foil hat, but I think he was on to something when I saw the fighting over the 2000 election and now issues like this.

If this issue of homosexual marriage keeps going the way it is, then other standards of society will be changed and will fall like a set of dominoes. I've gotten into debate with people from the other side and they call us homophobes, rednecks, old fashioned, and Bible Thumpers. Well, I tried to present our side of the debate but they still shout you down with the same old rhetoric. I've pretty much stopped trying to talk to them, let's face it, you cannot "show a blind dog anything." I might sound harsh here but deep down inside, I feel these people are dead spirtually or if I want to be nice about it, "on life support." I mean they just shout you down like the robots they are, instead of thinking, they react, much like a roach does when you shine a light on it.

I've resolved one thing is that I'll try my best to fight for what is right, I work a lot of hours, sadly, I cannot devote a lot of time but I'll do my best to do my part, albeit small, to try to turn the tide. Somedays I'm optimistic, others I am not, but I do feel that within the last year, there was a sleeping giant that did awake because most of middle America does not want this.

I think the homosexual lifestyle is dead wrong, goes agaisnt God, nature, logic, and so on, but despite trying to reach out, not everyone will be guided to the straight and narrow. I resolved that as long as they keep it private, like all sex lives should be, then it should be live and let live. However, when you come to knock down a staple of our society, then that's when we arch our backs like a cat.

Getting back to my father, well, maybe one day the America we know will break up, I don't know how, but I'd be willing to cut Frisco loose and they become a free sovereign city of its own if they want homosexual marriage, but leave the rest of us alone. Better yet, if they want to marry, they can go to Holland and live there, just leave us and our society alone.
260 posted on 03/21/2004 4:13:41 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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