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Use of In-Phone Cameras Prompts Bans
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 02/11/04 | By MARTHA IRVINE, AP National Writer

Posted on 02/11/2004 12:45:48 PM PST by the invisib1e hand

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there, there, no need to be alarmed. after a while, "it won't be such an issue anymore."
1 posted on 02/11/2004 12:45:51 PM PST by the invisib1e hand
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To: the invisib1e hand
Eventually they will be so small and inconspicuous that it would be next to impossible to detect them without strip searching.
2 posted on 02/11/2004 12:50:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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I'm expecting to see a decoupling of phones and cameras. At first, people thought the "gee whiz" factor of cameras on phones was cool, but I predict that society at large will reject this technology trend because people would rather have their phones at all times than have to leave the cameras in the car.

I would expect to see the cameras become a removable attachment in the near future.

-PJ

3 posted on 02/11/2004 12:50:23 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Ba, ba, BAN,BAN,BAN, BAN, BAN


4 posted on 02/11/2004 12:50:35 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Your screen name fits in very well with this article.... :-)
5 posted on 02/11/2004 12:53:54 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: Political Junkie Too
I would expect to see the cameras become a removable attachment in the near future.

That almost makes it even worse, at least if it is in the cell phone it is easy to find and tell if someone is taking a picture. Take it out of the cell phone, it could be hidden almost anywhere and simply transmit the image back to the cell phone. I would still ban cell phones anyway from my establishment even if the cameras were detachable for that very reason.

6 posted on 02/11/2004 12:59:03 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: the invisib1e hand
I do not understand why anyone out of diapers wants pictures of someone else going to the bathroom. Gak. WHY?

This has to be the stupidest thing some humans do. Yes, we've finally found something dumber than swearing at other drivers who can't hear you.
7 posted on 02/11/2004 1:03:01 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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synchronicity...i was just told to write a policy on unauthorized image acquisition.
8 posted on 02/11/2004 1:06:32 PM PST by kallisti
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To: the invisib1e hand
In Tokyo they already have cams built into some kinds of eyeglasses. The suckers are so tiny you can barely see the lens hole and the wiring could be easily mistaken for a walkman or earpiece cord.

Soon they will be wireless.

Fighting this technology is a losing battle.
9 posted on 02/11/2004 1:11:03 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws -- Smile!!!)
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I work in the mobile industry. The cameras are so small and inexpensive that 80%+ of phones in first-world markets will have cameras in the next 12 months. The lens cover is about the size of the end of pencil eraser, and that is larger than it needs to be.

Apart from being too small and inexpensive to merit their own battery and enclosure, cameraphones are nifty because you can send the picture right away. No film to "confiscate."

I hope camera phones become pervasive. More cops and TSA goons need to be photographed.
10 posted on 02/11/2004 1:20:36 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I'm expecting to see a decoupling of phones and cameras.

LOL. Actually, the trend will be the other way.

because people would rather have their phones at all times than have to leave the cameras in the car.

And that's exactly why it will trend the other way.

Eventually, cellular telephony will be built right into your head- wired directly to your brain. You'll communicate with your friends via data and image simply by thinking about it. What you see, they will instantly see.

That's not even that far down the road. If you have a young child, I would imagine he will live to see that, no problem. I'm in my late 30s and I figure I might even live to see it.

In the near future, the trend is towards ever smaller- computers, gadgets, cameras. It won't matter soon whether a business tells you to leave your camera outside or not because they'd never see it even if they searched you for it.

11 posted on 02/11/2004 1:26:14 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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I have had one of these phones for the past 6 months now, and I have never had a problem with it. Maybe that is because I don't use the camera that often and because the images are not that great compared to a real megapixel camera phone. It was the best phone that verizon had at the time I wanted to change in my 1 cent, when you sign up for a deal, phone. It was color, loud speaker, and a flip phone. Plus it was a good price compared to other phones.

Damn, and last month I was in a real nice strip club in WVA and I did not even think to use it. I guess low-res porno just does not do it for me. :)
12 posted on 02/11/2004 1:31:04 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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the images are not that great compared to a real megapixel camera

I had been reading up on one camera phone, and realized it might have the same sensor (resolution) as my much, much larger 6-year-old Mavica FD-7, which has done a lot of service for FR.

(OTOH the Mavica has many features the phone doesn't... like 10x optical zoom.)

13 posted on 02/11/2004 2:02:39 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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I just emptied my digital camera's smart card on to my hard drive. 93 reasonably high res photos from a camera smaller than a pack of cigarettes with a card a quarter the volume of a matchbook. I'm really in awe of this. No need for flash--I took pictures in really bad conditions. The colors aren't particularly true but that's what Photoshop is for.

I do have to focus it manually, "best guess," but for $30 and its light weight, it's just incredible. I use it in the lab to document what we do, and having it with me in the event of a traffic accident or something just seems like a good idea. I don't want a phone cam...I'd rather have separate gadgets, and I don't want to pay more for my cell phone. But I can understand the appeal.

But please, no implants. Ugh. I have enough trouble with fillings. They're recalling my mom's artificial knee. We need to avoid putting things that don't belong there IN our bodies...it's just not a necessary or sensible risk.
14 posted on 02/11/2004 5:03:15 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: Triple Word Score
The appeal? http://www.mobileasses.com
15 posted on 02/11/2004 6:08:51 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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I think I'm not morally or endocrinologically calibrated to appreciate this kind of thing, but thanks anyway.
16 posted on 02/11/2004 9:23:52 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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But please, no implants.

It's what's going to happen. You could mark it down under fact that just hasn't come to pass yet.

We need to avoid putting things that don't belong there IN our bodies...it's just not a necessary or sensible risk.

We've been doing it for a long time- pacemakers. Humans augmenting themselves is inevitable.

17 posted on 02/11/2004 9:25:08 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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Oh, yeah, but we avoid pacemakers as much as possible...put up with enormous pain for years procrastinating artificial joints...it's not something to be done lightly or for entertainment. Most people who have had something "put in" once become more reluctant to have subsequent procedures, not more eager!

Then again....

http://bmeworld.com/amago/

(Warning: clicking on this link may cause insomnia.)
18 posted on 02/11/2004 9:33:22 PM PST by Triple Word Score
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>>I would expect to see the cameras become a removable attachment in the near future<<

I have a friend with exactly that -- an attachemnt to his Cell phone that makes it a camera.

And I have a digital camera the size of a credit card -- 680x420 or so resolution.


19 posted on 02/11/2004 9:39:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Everyone is stupid! That is why they do all those stupid things! -- H. Simpson.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
It has occurred to me that another danger of these camera phones is the speed of the downloading. With a regular camera, analog or digital, you cannot instantly send the picture to someone else. Hence, if someone comes into a locker room and snaps a picture of you in the shower, you or your friends, may have the opportunity to chase the culprit down and deprive them of the camera image before they can share it with the world. With a camera phone this same person could send the picture, via their wireless phone, to someone else and your image could appear on an internet site within minutes even if you took their camera phone away.
20 posted on 02/11/2004 10:10:50 PM PST by redheadtoo
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