When UFOs Arrive

www.popularmechanics.com ^ | February 2004 | BY JIM WILSON

[Constantine XIII]

Oh good grief...Sitchin? LOL

www.badastronomy.com

These guys can fix you right up. Go to the bullitin boards and look around.

Cheers,

C13

[stuartcr]

I believe that is all fine when concerned with things that have or probably will have tangible results, and even the ideas of good/evil, which will have results. When dealing with the supernatural and those things which we will not know until after our death, I believe anyones guess/belief is as good as anothers....I prefer to use my time here on earth to enjoy and exercise those things which God has given me, here on earth. Life is what God gave us for use here on earth....after is unknown, and I am patient.

[Quix]

INCREDIBLE. What region was the underground area in? Florida?

What have the officials had to say officially or unofficially?

Did the boy take your address or phone number?

What is your take on the UFO liberating him. Was it a competing race of ET's? Our military UFO? An angelic UFO? What's your best guess?

Did the FEDS get involved directly that you knew of?

THANKS MUCH for your first hand report!

[stuartcr]

Apparently my one-time attempt at humor has bothered you, I apologize.

[Chris Talk]

I am not sure whether the question here is some kind of mystical study into the 22 characters of the Hebrew alphabet themselves...which some Rabbis have been doing for thousands of years... you might find something on it in mystical Orthodox circles or websites...

Or do you mean you have taken down words in the Hebrew characters, but do not know what they mean? Since Hebrew is mostly just consonants, like an abbreviation, and sometimes is strung together without punctuation, it can take a real expert, or a computer like those used by the Bible coders, to know what possible word-divisions and thus meanings, are encoded in there.

[Quix]

Breeding purposes for food, body parts, ????

[Quix]

I think your analysis vis a vis the spiritual vs the religious is quite apt. Thanks.

[Chris Talk]

The underground area was probably out West, the boy had never been to Florida or anywhere east of the Rockies at all.

The answers to those other questions are No. The UFO that liberated him just dumped him out because apparently they were through with him, he had served his purpose for breeding so they dumped him. That is my take on it. He said they let him out down near the shrimp boats and said maybe he could get a job on one of the boats. He thought he was on the coast of California or San Diego somewhere and we had to try to talk that out of him, I kept saying the sun is coming up over there, does the sun come up over the ocean in California? But I really don't think he had enough education to be able to tell what I meant. Yet he was quite bright. Durn public schools.

Never reported here by me or anyone else, and these are the few first words right here on FR I have ever typed about it. I have told a few friends and relatives of course. We exchanged no information at all, best that way. The Canadian pastor came up maybe 10 or 15 minutes and was a VERY reassuring, kindly older man, and seemed to know just how to take him in hand. We have a couple very good church based helping outfits here, and I saw the boy a couple days later, and they had cleaned him up and washed his clothes but they were the same clothes, ugh.

He was MUCH better, having been fed and rested, and was going to fly to the West the next morning.

I hope the Feds never found out about it. WHy tell THEM?

Of course my report is kind of Second hand. I hope the poor guy has put it behind him and achieved some kind of closure. This was 3 years ago this month, so if I were correct in thinking him 19 then, he would be 22 now.

[Quix]

I think the BibleCodesDigest folks also have some suggestions for Hebrew, Greek language software. I suppose one could also try Amazon.

[Quix]

Well said, imho.

[Chris Talk]

Lord knows, probably all of that and worse--

we know those stinking slops in the Vats have human fetal tissue in them, as one ingredient, though it is mostly cattle blood and offal, with chemicals, rotten stuff. This even explains Roe v Wade, by the way, the Aliens were to get quite a large amount of human fetal tissue as part of their various deals with the govt.

They are creating human/alien hybrids, that for sure, and maybe creating a race of human slaves, beats ME.

I only know they ARE doing it, and on a fairly large scale. They have these decanters with fetuses in them just like Brave New World.

[Quix]

An interesting and understandable perspective.

I prefer to believe God about this life and the next, eternal life--and particularly about one's transition between the two.

Hard to go wrong following the instructions of THE BOSS.

[Quix]

BOTHERING me is of no consequence.

Thanks for saying so, though.

I'm MOST frustrated at lack of understanding in dialogue with someone. I dearly love to know what people mean.

And I can be real thickheaded about humor. Been true all my life. Have most of my youth had to have even painfully simple and clear jokes spelled out to me before I got them. And 'getting them' still did not mean they were funny to me. Not sure what all that's about. I am BETTER about jokes the last couple of decades or so but I can still have a hard time telling humor or satire from straight forward statements of intent or fact.

Sorry.

In terms of your sentence--way back whenever on whatever thread--I mostly WANTED EARNESTLY TO KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT by it.

[biblewonk]

That's a perfectly logical reason for ET's to be keenly observing earth and that process.

You are very unusual to make statements like this, react the way you do to a biblewonk and claim to believe in a literal creation. I usually get the reaction you've been giving me from heathens who are offended by the word bible in my SN.

[Quix]

So, no follow-up with the Canadian pastor nor the helpng organization?

I realize detachment has safety elements to it . . . nevertheless, this is of keen interest, as you can imagine. One would like to pick the poor lad's brain for months.

One doesn't have to inform the FEDS for them to know, as you know.

[Quix]

Any book or other refs worth pointing out on such scores?

I've read enough bits and pieces to not quibble at all with your analysis.

But it would be great if other FREEPERS could check better sources out.

[Chris Talk]

That is just IT. People ask me for recommended reading, and I am at a loss, for of course I cannot endorse ALL of what ANYbody says, including Sitchin of course.

And when we are talking about THIS field, any writers who touch it are unconventional, rather unusual people, and may have slick spots and hobby horses -- who DOESN'T -- in their brains/minds.

The works I have recommended are important background reading IMHO, because so few works that ARE helpful exist!
What am I to say, "read Velikovsky?" That is vital background reading too, in a field where so little that is truly valid exists! They are all off on something, but if I reccommend one, then somebody tries to belabor me with either some specific error that writer makes, or more commonly like YOU, just claim that the writer is disreputable or has been "debunked," often unfairly.

Does the critic imagine that I am UNAWARE of that? But these books however flawed, are all we have.

[realpatriot71]

Furthermore, I agree that Jesus Christ [Heb. Yeshua haMashiakh] has come in the flesh, so therefore I am on the INside, not the Out, of the Believer category.

Cute. John, as an apostle, was clear that Jesus Christ was God (YHWH). Please do not parse semantics with me. No one questions the "man" Jesus - not even most of the liberal/secular historians with their large axes to grind - the question hinging around the man Jesus is: was he God?

Ok, please correct me if I have this wrong BUT, your position would be: "Jesus never claimed to be God, therefore I cannot say," or, "Jesus never claimed to be God, therefore was not God," (perhaps niether?).

You are calling down some pretty serious wrath on me, for simply stating FACTS!

I'm not calling down wrath, for it is not my place to call down wrath. I am merely pointing out what is a serious misunderstanding of scripture in this regard.

I stated that he nowhere claims to be ben-YHWH, the son of the G-d of Israel. That is a FACT, not my opinion.

Now, when you made this statement do you mean that Jesus Christ, nowhere in the Gospel claimed that exact phrase or do you mean that Jesus Christ never in any way, shape, or form laid claim to the title of the Almighty?

Be nice now, and apologize.

I will apologize for being offensive (if I have been), but I will not apologize for standing up for Scripture.

[Chris Talk]

No, we took no names, the girls seemed to need help, they seemed so traumatized by it. The less facts and figures I know, the better.

The Canadian, who was strolling down there while his wife shopped in town, was a very reassuring type and kept calling him "son," which really is what was needed and called for, rather than have me yield to my scientific curiosity and try to pump him for details.

I have wondered if someday when he is older he will come back and look around here where they dumped him, but actually I do hope and pray he will have put it all behind him and be able to live a normal life anyway. Poor family, poor schools, and yet I DO mean BRIGHT! My guess his his IQ must have been 125 or so, but what would I know, mine is 147.

[realpatriot71]

If BENI HA ELOHIM doesn't refer to angelic beings, then who would you hold it to represent?

Those who properly worshiped the only Holy God. The monothesistic peoples of the time before the flood, decendants of Seth. "sons of God" denotes the believers of God, even NT writers use this phrase to refer to believers (Phil 2:15; 1 John 3:1 are two I found quickly).