[Xenalyte]

How can you judge the teachers when the students aren't required to do anything? That is until this test is given and then they can't do simple arithmetic & basic Science and English. Then all the sudden it's the teachers fault.

I can judge the students and the teachers PLENTY, because I got to teach 'em after the teachers got rid of 'em. I taught freshmen in college, and I was appalled at how many lacked eighth-grade reading proficiency.

[HELLRAISER II]

You should judge them both if they are both at fault, but like I said in an earlier post. How you can teach them if they can't read & write? How you can teach them if they won't do their homework and the kids parents won't make them? As a matter of fact they come in and tell you they didn't do it and they still better pass the class or else. You're right that you should most definately judge the student & parents, but sometimes the teacher can only teach if the student is willing to learn.