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Is Chris Matthews Unable or Unwilling to understand a simple exchange between Bush and Russert?
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Posted on 02/09/2004 3:28:15 PM PST by rocklobster11
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To: Pubbie
And here is Max Cleland, trashing Bush.
Why is Cleland going on about Bush getting out early? Didn't Kerry and Gore BOTH get out early?
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:18:54 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Pubbie
Matthews has Cleland on right now.
Folks, I'll get slapped for this, but I've had a bellyful of this fat jerk.
He lost both legs, but he lost his mind, too, apparently. He's a very bitter man for getting his ass handed to him in 2002, and he's taking it out on every Republican he meets.
And Chris is revealing his Democrat sympathies tonight in a very big way.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:19:39 PM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: Pubbie
Now Matthews is denigrating the Guard. Says it was just a rich kids way to avoid vietnam.
To: redlipstick
Cleland and Matthews slamming Guard service. (Though Cleland careful to say it's different NOW)
A "rich kids way of avoiding Vietnam", says Matthews.
I won't even transcribe more from these nasty nasty characters.
To: Howlin
The media is starting it smear job.
And they've got to go back to Vietnam to find something on Bush.
If they want the gloves off, we should put Kerry and Jane Fonda on every piece of GOP literature that's sent out.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:21:20 PM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: sinkspur
Agree. Service to one's country, while admirable, does not grant one lifetime immunity from criticism.
This is so sad. Most veterans I know don't even want to discuss their service. Cleland and Kerry are a disgrace to all those veterans.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:21:33 PM PST
by
LisaFab
To: Pubbie
Matthews in Peace Corps. He said he didn't want to serve in Vietnam and says "everybody knows" that the National Guard service was a "rich kids" way to get out and "why can't everybody be honest about it like he's honest about it".
To: Pubbie; cyncooper
Chrissy himself avoided the draft by joining the Peace Corps.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:22:55 PM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
To: Howlin
Yes. But I'm sure IF Cleland or Matthews or whoever is actually confronted with that, they'll come up with some reason why that is "different".
I tell you this has me livid.
But as I posted above, I see a silver lining. Evidently this is the only thing in the interview they decided could be picked on.
To: rocklobster11
I'm watching Krissy now on HARDBOILED now......Boy, he sounded in the first 5 minutes like HE wanted that interview rather than Russert really bad. You could see the drool coming down his chin as he salivated at the thought.
Hang it up Kris, you poser!
I think he's going to spend the rest of the program chewing away on Bush's military service records.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:24:30 PM PST
by
DoctorMichael
(Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
To: RoseofTexas
I am sooooo freakin upset at the way W has been treated that I'm GOING TO WALK THROUGH GLASS to bring tons of voters to VOTE for W!! I'm pissed and I'm ready to RUMBLE with the hellish rats!!You are not alone. A colleague of mine today was so down about Imus and Russert today and their glee in what they consider the President's weak showing. I told him the only thing he could do with that was get out and work on the campaign and he has agreed. This is coming from a man in his early 50s, who opposed the Viet Nam war as a teenager and young adult. The Dems should just keep it up as far as I am concerned, they are attacking a man who is truly loved and respected by too many of us.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:24:42 PM PST
by
Dolphy
To: Howlin
Howlin, has anyone ever asked John Edwards about Vietnam?
I realize he's younger than Kerry and GWB, but he's the same age as my husband, who enlisted in the Navy in 1971.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:25:18 PM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
To: redlipstick
Yeah, but he boasts how "at least I'm honest about it", refusing to grant President Bush honorable service or accomplishment.
Chris has gone WAY 'round the bend on this one. He obviously has a class thing going on, too, which we all knew but it is in the forefront right now.
To: cyncooper
Cleland has been the dems' "victim of choice" since the 2002 elections. He just can't get over the fact that Georgians kicked him out on his keister.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:27:46 PM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
To: Howlin
![](http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/05/elec02.senate/story.ga.saxby.chambliss.jpg)
CNN is projecting that Rep. Saxby Chambliss will win and claim the seat of incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland in Georgia. (More on Georgia race)
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:27:54 PM PST
by
Pubbie
(I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
To: cyncooper
Also take a look at Florida in 2002. Jeb beat McBride by 13-14 points.
Democrats touted McBride's military service - he was awarded a Bronze Star in Vietnam - and hoped it would appeal to many of Florida's 1.7 million veterans.
Unfortunately for the Dems, having served in Vietnam will mean nothing for Kerry come election time. The was was along time ago, and anyone who is pro-military who would be impressed by his service will not be impressed with his lack of support for the military since then.
Just heard Matthews call Cleland a war hero. So, in the last hour, he has called Kerry and Cleland war heroes and said Bush was just a rich kid avoiding service in Vietnam.
To: cyncooper
Cleland: Where is his DD 214?
The National Guard uses form 22.
This is the President's.....
![](http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-4/20265/bushdisc.jpg)
From the FAQ of this VA site...
If you were discharged from the Selected Reserves or the National Guard, you must include copies of adequate documentation of at least 6 years of honorable service. If you were discharged from the Army or Air Force National Guard, you may submit NGB Form 22, Report of Separation and Record of Service, or NGB Form 23, Retirement Points Accounting, or its equivalent. If you were discharged from the Selected Reserve, you may submit a copy of your latest annual points statement and evidence of honorable service. Unfortunately, there is no single form used by the Reserves or National Guard similar to the DD Form 214. It is your responsibility to furnish adequate documentation of at least 6 years of honorable service.
To: cyncooper; sinkspur; redlipstick
I can hardly bear to watch it, cyn. And they openly mock anybody who tries to explain what actually happened to Bush.
Has anybody heard ANY of them mention JANE FONDA today?
Max Cleland is obviously out for revenge for his GA. defeat. What a nasty little man.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:28:38 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: hole_n_one
But NOBODY ever says that, do they?
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:29:44 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: rocklobster11
"Just heard Matthews call Cleland a war hero."
He is not a War hero - he dropped a grenade by accident.
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posted on
02/09/2004 4:29:47 PM PST
by
Pubbie
(I hate both the NeoConservatives and the PaleoConservatives - What does that make me?)
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