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Peggy Noonan: Philosophy, Not Policy - Why Bush isn't good at interviews(Bush and Russert on MTP)
WSJ via Drudge ^ | 2/9/04 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 02/09/2004 7:57:11 AM PST by SquirrelKing

Philosophy, Not Policy Why Bush isn't good at interviews.

Sunday, February 8, 2004 4:30 p.m. EST

President Bush's interview on "Meet the Press" seems to me so much a big-story-in-the-making that I wanted to weigh in with some thoughts. I am one of those who feel his performance was not impressive.

It was an important interview. The president has been taking a beating for two months now--two months of the nonstop commercial for the Democratic Party that is the Democratic primaries, and then the Kay report. And so people watched when he decided to come forward in a high stakes interview with Tim Russert, the tough interviewer who's an equal-opportunity griller of Democrats. He has heroic concentration and a face like a fist. His interviews are Beltway events.

But certain facts of the interview were favorable to the president. Normally it's mano a mano at Mr. Russert's interview table in the big, cold studio. But this interview was in the Oval Office, on the president's home ground, in front of the big desk. Normally it's live, which would be unnerving for a normal person and is challenging for politicians. Live always raises the stakes. But Mr. Bush's interview was taped. Saturday. Taped is easier. You can actually say, "Can we stop for a second? Something in my eye."

You can find the transcript of the Bush-Russert interview all over the Web. It reads better than it played. But six million people saw it, and many millions more will see pieces of it, and they will not be the pieces in which Mr. Bush looks good. The president seemed tired, unsure and often bumbling. His answers were repetitive, and when he tried to clarify them he tended to make them worse. He did not seem prepared. He seemed in some way disconnected from the event. When he was thrown the semisoftball question on his National Guard experience--he's been thrown this question for 10 years now--he spoke in a way that seemed detached. "It's politics." Well yes, we know that. Tell us more.

I never expect Mr. Bush, in interviews, to be Tony Blair: eloquent, in the moment, marshaling facts and arguments with seeming ease and reeling them out with conviction and passion. Mr. Bush is less facile with language, as we all know, less able to march out his facts to fight for him.

I don't think Mr. Bush's supporters expect that of him, or are disappointed when he doesn't give it to them. So I'm not sure he disturbed his base. I think he just failed to inspire his base. Which is serious enough--the base was looking for inspiration, and needed it--but not exactly fatal.

Mr. Bush's supporters expect him to do well in speeches, and to inspire them in speeches. And he has in the past. The recent State of the Union was a good speech but not a great one, and because of that some Bush supporters were disappointed. They put the bar high for Mr. Bush in speeches, and he clears the bar. But his supporters don't really expect to be inspired by his interviews.

The Big Russ interview will not be a big political story in terms of Bush supporters suddenly turning away from their man. But it will be a big political story in terms of the punditocracy and of news producers, who in general don't like Mr. Bush anyway. Pundits will characterize this interview, and press their characterization on history. They will compare it to Teddy Kennedy floundering around with Roger Mudd in 1980 in the interview that helped do in his presidential campaign. News producers will pick Mr. Bush's sleepiest moments to repeat, and will feed their anchors questions for tomorrow morning: "Why did Bush do badly, do you think?" So Mr. Bush will have a few bad days of bad reviews ahead of him.

But I am thinking there are two kinds of minds in politics. There are those who absorb and repeat their arguments and evidence--their talking points--with vigor, engagement and certainty. And there are those who cannot remember their talking points.

Those who cannot remember their talking points can still succeed as leaders if they give good speeches. Speeches are more important in politics than talking points, as a rule, and are better remembered.

Which gets me to Ronald Reagan. Mr. Reagan had a ready wit and lovely humor, but he didn't as a rule give good interviews when he was president. He couldn't remember his talking points. He was a non-talking-point guy. His people would sit him down and rehearse all the fine points of Mideast policy or Iran-contra and he'd say, "I know that, fine." And then he'd have a news conference and the press would challenge him, or approach a question from an unexpected angle, and he'd forget his talking points. And fumble. And the press would smack him around: "He's losing it, he's old."

Dwight Eisenhower wasn't good at talking points either.

George W. Bush is not good at talking points. You can see when he's pressed on a question. Mr. Russert asks, why don't you remove George Tenet? And Mr. Bush blinks, and I think I know what is happening in his mind. He's thinking: Go through history of intelligence failures. No, start with endorsement of George so I don't forget it and cause a big story. No, point out intelligence didn't work under Clinton. Mention that part of the Kay report that I keep waiting for people to mention.

He knows he has to hit every point smoothly, but self-consciousness keeps him from smoothness. In real life, in the office, Mr. Bush is not self-conscious. Nor was Mr. Reagan.

What we are looking at here is not quality of mind--Mr. Bush is as bright as John Kerry, just as Mr. Reagan was as bright as Walter Mondale, who was very good at talking points. They all are and were intelligent. Yet neither Mr. Bush's interviews and press conferences nor Mr. Reagan's suggested anything about what they were like in the office during a crisis: engaged, and tough. It's something else. John Kerry does good talking points. In interviews he's asked for his views on tax cuts and he has it all there in his head in blocks of language that cohere and build. It gets boring the 14th time you hear it, but he looks capable. Hillary Clinton is great at talking points--she's the best, as her husband was the best in his time.

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I like Noonan, but I think she pulled a Novak on this one. Even a Liberal talking head on CNBC said that Bush helped himself in the interview.
81 posted on 02/09/2004 10:45:47 AM PST by Consort
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To: Common Tator
Sorry to have evidently offended your manhood. But Peggy seems more feminine to me, and is aging better than Ann.

A general rule is what will she look like at eighty. 'Working pretty well so far.

82 posted on 02/09/2004 10:46:47 AM PST by onedoug
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To: _Jim
AND these are words +24 hrs AFTER the fact - and without benefit of review - so I give them little credence! All I can say is I hope your not on his comm team. Your insistence on "review" is meaningless - most of America (audience remember?) will see a few choice clips on the news - thats it. Even the Bush crowd here only caught it once. If Bush needs "benefit of review" to get his msg across, we're in trouble.
83 posted on 02/09/2004 11:06:44 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: Consort
"Even a Liberal talking head on CNBC said that Bush helped himself in the interview"

Not to badger you - but what do you expect from peeps who constantly underestimate Bush. Of course they were impressed - he didn't stumble over any 3-syllable words.
84 posted on 02/09/2004 11:11:01 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: SquirrelKing
I didn't see the whole interview as I was spending too much time here reading threads. But in what I did see I was patently OFFENDED by Russert's lack of respect in throwing those 'gotcha' questions at Bush.

I mean, what the fu heck was up with that "Why does Europe hate you" question?!? Who gives a rats patoot about how europe (he really meant France & Germany) 'feel'. Last I looked they don't vote here. And that cr@p question about Tiny Tammy Dashound and 'divisiveness'? Then as some have mentioned the 'question' about Dubya's NG service. Hell why didn't Russert just say excuse me, gotta go and let Terry McAwful do the interview? The whole thing was a blatant hit-piece right from the DNC fax machine!

That a-hole Russert BETTER ask that frickin Kerry about HIS bugging out early from both NAM & his Navy enlistment commitment AND his pro-communist activities with Jane Fonda!!!

Grrrrrr... I'm still ticked-off.

85 posted on 02/09/2004 11:17:26 AM PST by Condor51 ("Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites" -- Standing Wolf)
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To: Fenris6
After further consideration, I maintain my position. The president did fine.
86 posted on 02/09/2004 11:34:20 AM PST by cheme
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To: Fenris6
The way he speaks is part of his popularity, as has been said before.
87 posted on 02/09/2004 11:34:49 AM PST by Consort
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To: cheme
Oh I agree. Bush was "fine" last night.

"Fine" doesn't win the Electoral College
88 posted on 02/09/2004 11:37:50 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: Fenris6
It gets his base and then eveything else is guesswork.
89 posted on 02/09/2004 11:43:10 AM PST by cheme
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To: cheme
"It gets his base and then eveything else is guesswork."

Hope thats not our strategy. Sure, lets go prime-time with Russert to secure a base that already agrees with us.


90 posted on 02/09/2004 11:50:34 AM PST by Fenris6
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To: Fenris6
I respect the President's knowledge about winning support and elections. He has significant experience with this subject. Unless you have credentials comparable to the President with respect to winning elections, I maintain my position, Ms. Noonan has something other than the President's election success in mind by writing this piece.
91 posted on 02/09/2004 12:02:02 PM PST by cheme
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To: cheme
Noonan & I share an appreciation for constructive criticism, thats all. And one would hope that the President is more invested in "governance" than "electoral strategy". Thats why we pay Rowe the big bucks, yes?

C'mon people. Your loyalty is commendable, but lets not blind ourselves with it. Back on point: Someone explain why the propaganda & lies of the Left re Iraq & the WoT has remained unchallenged? Half the country remains ignorant despite factual evidence to the contrary. Who's fault is that?

Don't you peeps remember Bush I - lost a gime-put election because the left parroted "it's the economy stupid" even though the truth was the economy was recovering? What did that get us? Eight years of Clinton. Wake up already!
92 posted on 02/09/2004 12:17:07 PM PST by Fenris6
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To: Fenris6
I have no problem with constructive criticism, but yours in not constructive and is misplaced. What is it with your term "peep"? Your starting to reveal yourself.
93 posted on 02/09/2004 12:23:19 PM PST by cheme
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To: Fenris6
I agree that we must counter these lies with the facts. So many of us are getting frustrated because we don't think Bush and his administration are doing a good enough job in the PR department lately. I'm getting so PO'd with all the blatants lies being espoused, even constantly on Foxnews. It seems we all, and I include the conservative pundits like Noonan and the talk radio guys, are a bit taken aback by the brazenness and level of viciousness of the Dem attacks and Kerry's ascendancy.

But it's time to stand up, adjust the pair, withstand these attacks and go on offense. All of us. Noonan, Rush, etc. need to forget that Bush isn't the best wordsmith and focus on going after the liberals and defending our country from their "leadership". There's alot at stake here -we need to rally around Bush and do for him what he cannot do himself.
94 posted on 02/09/2004 12:24:17 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: cheme
"I have no problem with constructive criticism, but yours in not constructive and is misplaced."

please provide examples

"What is it with your term "peep"? Your starting to reveal yourself."

?? "Peep" is a casual net term for "people". Quit projecting :)
95 posted on 02/09/2004 12:27:22 PM PST by Fenris6
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To: over3Owithabrain
"There's alot at stake here -we need to rally around Bush and do for him what he cannot do himself."

Oh don't get me wrong - I support Bush 100%, even when he stumbles. Western Civ is at stake here. I live near DC and plan to volunteer for the RNC or whomever. I'm just afraid our people are getting arrogant and complacent, thats all.

96 posted on 02/09/2004 12:30:01 PM PST by Fenris6
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To: Fenris6
There are plenty of examples, but I'll just agree to disagree.
97 posted on 02/09/2004 1:01:42 PM PST by cheme
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To: cheme
uh-huh. one example shouldn't be too difficult....
98 posted on 02/09/2004 2:17:09 PM PST by Fenris6
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