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>>I do not understand my fellow conservatives. You do not want expanded government. You attack Bush for expanding Govt i.e the Patriot Act, and you blast him for too much spending.

>>But you want Bush to regulate your companies business decisions and to subsidize private business like the farm industry to protect their jobs.

The gov't already regulates business decisions. There is nothing wrong with that.

As far as subsidies goes, food needs to be grown for strategic purposes. If the world ever breaks out in world war again, we can't be dependant on foreign countries for food.

Think of farm subsidies as the strategic food reserve, much like the strategic oil reserve. (Tobacco included -- our soldiers need cigars to smoke!)

>>Point of Fact, workers i.e. you and I are commodities.

Thats your first mistake. Humans are not commodities. Commodities are used, abuse, and destroyed. Do you think any corporation can kill (destroy) someone? By your reasoning, they can, just like a lab rat which has outlived it's usefulness.

>>We market ourselves and our skill sets, companies that need those skills hire us at a cost commensurate with the value of our skills.

Nobody is arguing about that.

>>If at any point we produce less and/or cost more, WE WILL BE OUT SOURCED!

This is true, but typically happens is companies relocate within the country to areas where wages are lower. At least then the money is kept within our economy.

>>How is that Bush's fault?

How? A lack of leadership on this issue. A lack of asking Congress for legislation to prevent outsourcing. That's how.

1stFreedom,

I get so tired of this "outsourcing" rhetoric and how we need to protect the manufacturing or whatever industry. Then you protectionists call the free traders, "free traitors" and "closet socialists".

Question: Is the Heritage Foundation conservative enough for you?

If you answered "yes", go to their areas on trade policies and brush up on the benefits of trade and "outsourcing".

If you answered "no", then go set up the "Buchananite Republic" where you people can post away!

>>Point of Fact, workers i.e. you and I are commodities.

Thats your first mistake. Humans are not commodities. Commodities are used, abuse, and destroyed. Do you think any corporation can kill (destroy) someone? By your reasoning, they can, just like a lab rat which has outlived it's usefulness.

Regardless of what you think of yourself and your opinions, you (and I) are not on the same level as Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams when it comes to Economics. They have both described workers as commodities. Stop taking a philosophical view, you can be laid off at any point because it is no longer financially viable to keep you. Farm subsidizes go way beyond your description. You need to wake up. They are not subsidizing tobacco so I can have cigars (which I like). Look at the farm bill! So you are on record in favor of the Government forcing companies to not lay you off. Didn't work real well in Communist China, they have since backed off from that rule, failed in the USSR and in Socialist India. It cost the governments too much (read: your tax dollars) You should read "Applied Economics" by Thomas Sowell.