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To: OpusatFR
It's time to stop the insane regulations and social engineering that are forcing companies offshore. The liability insurance, costs of doing business, and other costs are staggering.

You have forgotten to mention the Unions. They have contributed more to this situation than any other reason has. Their demands for higher wages and huge benefit packages have driven many companies out of business in the past. Now they're driving them overseas.

20 posted on 02/08/2004 10:17:51 AM PST by NRA2BFree (http://www.angelfire.com/nm2/chainreaction/ValentinesDay.html)
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To: NRA2BFree
There is an even bigger problem than the unions. American corporate executives are the biggest problem. They are drowning themselves in perks, payoffs and bonuses. They spend so much money on themselves that even in good years, the pressure is on to cut costs. If the executives are really concerned about the stockholders, they would outsource their own jobs overseas.
27 posted on 02/08/2004 10:25:14 AM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: NRA2BFree
You better take a good look at union packages over the last five-seven years. Not NEARLY as lucrative as you suspect.

In fact, most unions are taking 1%-2% increases in wage AND taking less health-care benefits, besides.

That is, all except the Gummint unions (AFSCME/NEA.)
64 posted on 02/08/2004 11:05:08 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: NRA2BFree
You have forgotten to mention the Unions. They have contributed more to this situation than any other reason has. Their demands for higher wages and huge benefit packages have driven many companies out of business in the past. Now they're driving them overseas.

That's rediculous...The union employees are just trying to keep pace with the cost of living...And most are not keeping up...I pity the non-union employees who have nothing to help them survive while the CEOs reap millions per year even if they're non-performers...

So what do you figure an employee is worth??? In China they're worth about 20 cents per hour...And they can barely afford a one or two room apt for themselves, their parens, grandparents and kids...Is that what an employee is worth to you??? What makes you think you are worth any more than they are???

Problem is, while many white collar workers whine about the pay of blue collar workers, the pay of the white collar workers rises in conjunction with the blue collar worker's pay...But for some reason, some at FR seem to feel thay while they are valuable, blue collar workers a value-less...

67 posted on 02/08/2004 11:07:30 AM PST by Iscool
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To: NRA2BFree
You have forgotten to mention the Unions.

Are you aware that only 13.2% of all manufacturing jobs in the U.S are in unions. Tell me how 13.2% of that workforce has ruined it?

69 posted on 02/08/2004 11:12:02 AM PST by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Yes, but unions helped to build the middle class we are now trying to protect. Without them we might be like Mexico, lots of factory jobs but no prosperity, not even for the factory workers. There are not independent trade unions in Mexico. Arguably the failure of Nafta is in part because we did not insist on the export of the unions with the jobs. That at least would have helped NAFTA accomplish its goal of lifing up Mexico, and perhaps helped stem the invasion of poor Mexicans. We did not, it did not and they are still coming.
125 posted on 02/08/2004 12:17:09 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: NRA2BFree
You have forgotten to mention the Unions. They have contributed more to this situation than any other reason has.

If you hustle, you may still be able to make it into the 21st century!

152 posted on 02/08/2004 12:47:53 PM PST by iconoclast
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