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Proposition 56: Don't be fooled
OC Register ^ | 2/8/04 | Op/Ed

Posted on 02/08/2004 9:31:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:06:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It would be a shame, just as California was starting to take the right path to restore a semblance of fiscal sanity, if California voters were misled into supporting an initiative that took them backwards.

We don't use the term "misled" lightly, believing the average voter to be perfectly capable of making informed judgments. But the campaign to promote Proposition 56 on the March 2 ballot, just like the initiative itself, is terribly dishonest.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; cutscutscuts; dontbe; dontbefooled; fooled; prop55; prop56; prop57; prop58; proposition; proposition56

1 posted on 02/08/2004 9:31:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002; california; Ernest_at_the_Beach
THE OC folks are kind of worked up about this Prop 56 thing. :-]

Mike Shelton
OC Register



2 posted on 02/08/2004 9:34:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Out Troops!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Arnold has, as National Review pointed out, two meagar assets: the bully pulpit and the veto pen.

He needs to stretch them as far as they can go.

3 posted on 02/08/2004 9:48:49 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: NormsRevenge
"The public-sector unions that authored and promote the initiative ..."

That was enough to convince me it's bad for California.

4 posted on 02/08/2004 9:52:32 AM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker (Barrett M82A1)
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To: NormsRevenge
Thanks for the Toon!
5 posted on 02/08/2004 10:03:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just spreading some cheer. 8-]

6 posted on 02/08/2004 10:06:49 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Out Troops!)
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To: All
Great post from last night -

CA: At-a-glance look at Proposition 56

7 posted on 02/08/2004 10:09:10 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Out Troops!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good editorial.
8 posted on 02/08/2004 10:09:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
playing on the populist revulsion with Sacramento politicians by championing a portion of the initiative that would force legislators and the governor to forgo their pay if a budget is late.

Forego their pay? That'll be the day. If they include a minimum of 3 months jail time (with no legislative participation) for legislators who deficit spend or delay the budget, I might be tempted.

9 posted on 02/08/2004 10:35:43 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
"The public-sector unions that authored and promote the initiative ..."

That was enough to convince me it's bad for California.

You needed convincing? :-)

10 posted on 02/08/2004 11:28:45 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: Hardastarboard
Not much but I don't live in California - just read a paper every so often when I go through.
11 posted on 02/08/2004 12:38:30 PM PST by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: NormsRevenge
Exactly. Its not about making Sacramento clean up its house its about giving it license to engage in a tax and spend orgy you haven't seen yet. Don't fooled by the fluff in Proposition 56 - if the sponsors simply asked voters to allow legislators to increase taxes with a straight majority vote, it wouldn't even get out of the starting gate. Beginning March 2nd, voters in California can send Sacramento business as usual is over by voting NO on all the propositions on the ballot.
12 posted on 02/08/2004 3:20:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Publius6961
More like if they put in a provision every legislator who fails to pass a balanced budget would be subject to automatic recall... well that might have made me a tad open to considering it. ;-)
13 posted on 02/08/2004 3:22:06 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gonna vote no, and also no on the bond measures.
14 posted on 02/08/2004 4:39:06 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Publius6961
Forego their pay? That'll be the day. If they include a minimum of 3 months jail time (with no legislative participation) for legislators who deficit spend or delay the budget, I might be tempted.

This is a sham to get you to buy 56. If the legislators can get their 55 % to pass tax increases, they will never have to worry about the above because they can approve tax increases willynilly to take care of their expenditures. The republicans might as well pack their bags and go home.

The democrats/progressies must really think we tax-payers are stoooopid.


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15 posted on 02/09/2004 3:46:07 AM PST by hotpotato
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To: NormsRevenge
This article should get a bump every Mon a.m. at least about the time folks would check in to read FR (I guess that would be a high readership time) until the election. So far, I haven't seen a single ad opposing 56. But I confess I have Replay(TM) using the unit that cuts commercials (before it was outlawed :-) However, I *have* been seeing the ads supporting 56 so they must be putting a lot of those out there.

I'm using the below logo and link on any posts I make to FR (when I remember). Can anyone say if that is ok or is that frowned upon by FR?


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16 posted on 02/09/2004 4:01:00 AM PST by hotpotato
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