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To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie
"There's no way in the world that California can raise taxes or cut spending enough by June 30 to solve the inherited debt problems," said Larry McCarthy, president of the California Taxpayers Association, who is a co-chair of the Yes on 57 and 58 committee. "The governor has proposed a solid plan to work out California from a very serious problem."

Pure, unadulterated HOGWASH!!! My opponent got the then President of this phony association in 1998 to participate in a blatantly false "hit piece" on me, complete with abject fabrication from whole cloth!!!

These guys can be bought quite easily, evidently. Even the Howard Jarvis organization is getting squirely these daze. Howard may have to resurrect himself to straighten his lessor successors out!!!

5 posted on 02/07/2004 10:42:06 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism is NOW beyond the point of "Diminishing Returns!" GANG-GREEN is setting in!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
I am not surprised that the CTA has gone soft, but it is very disappointing about the Jarvis organization. For some reason, Tom McClintock is the only person I trust in the whole debate anymore.
8 posted on 02/07/2004 11:14:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SierraWasp
All of these groups seem to be selling out.
I posted some excerpts from an LA Times Article yesterday....

Now they support [the bond] and are urging Californians to vote “yes.” A half dozen other Republican Assembly members who voted with them are doing the same, along with most of the state’s anti-tax, anti-borrowing crowd — from the Howard Jarvis Assn. to the California Taxpayers Assn.

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That leaves some grass-roots groups unhappy. “I think it’s extremely disappointing,” said Joe Armendariz, executive director of the Santa Barbara Taxpayers Assn. “I think the Jarvis association is missing an opportunity on this one to tell the truth. You can’t borrow your way out of debt. “At the same time, I know they are working with Arnold on some stuff,” Armendariz said. “There are behind-the-scenes dynamics preventing Jarvis from taking that position.”

It Stinks!

9 posted on 02/07/2004 11:18:57 PM PST by calcowgirl (No on Propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl
The bonds would cost an estimated $4 billion in interest payments if paid back over nine years.

That is less than 500 million per year, which for a state this size , in population and cash flow is not that big a deal IF we could count on Prop 58 doing what it is advertised to do.

The Democrats are going to say screw this,..... vote for Prop 56!.

If it does pass and prop 57 and 58 fail, then Arnold would not have any choice but to allow the Demonic Rats to raise the taxes and control the budgets!

They could pound him into the dust since they essentially control all of the state media!

They will use fear of cuts in Public Safety to motivate the electorate, they are already starting here in LA with a lot of talk about the Sheriff's Dept being shorted nearly $300 Million by the State!

10 posted on 02/07/2004 11:23:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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