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To: PatrickHenry
My point was NOT that Darwin was an advocate of racial superiority but that his observation regarding that was an influence on Hitler.

Read in context, it doesn't seem much different from standing on its own: Darwin puts it into the cool, rationalistic prose of science, but he doesn't seem bothered by the idea of one race trying to exterminate another. On the contrary, he observes it as just another fact observed in nature. Why then should Hitler hesitate to do what comes "naturally"?

For anyone who may misconstrue this post, I am not advocating Hitler or his ideas.
160 posted on 02/10/2004 10:50:04 AM PST by TradicalRC (While the wicked stand confounded, Call me, with thy saints surrounded. -The Boondock Saints)
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To: TradicalRC
My point was NOT that Darwin was an advocate of racial superiority but that his observation regarding that was an influence on Hitler.

Presumably we agree that: (a) Darwin didn't say that one race should go out and slaughter another; and (b) Hitler somehow came up with this on his own. Whether Hitler actually picked up erroneous bits and pieces of misinformation about Darwin's theory (or maybe something else) is irrelevant to the creationists' habit of saying that Darwin was the actual cause of Hitler's policies.

Read in context, it doesn't seem much different from standing on its own: Darwin puts it into the cool, rationalistic prose of science, but he doesn't seem bothered by the idea of one race trying to exterminate another. On the contrary, he observes it as just another fact observed in nature. Why then should Hitler hesitate to do what comes "naturally"?

Because, given the immense, deliberate, and frantic efforts Hitler put into his satanic enterprise, it clearly wasn't something that happened "naturally," as when a species goes exctinct over many generations because it fails to adapt to environmental changes. Shifting the blame for Hitler's genocide to Darwin's theory is clearly absurd.

163 posted on 02/10/2004 11:25:51 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Theory: a comprehensible, falsifiable, cause-and-effect explanation of verifiable facts.)
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To: TradicalRC
Read in context, it doesn't seem much different from standing on its own: Darwin puts it into the cool, rationalistic prose of science, but he doesn't seem bothered by the idea of one race trying to exterminate another. On the contrary, he observes it as just another fact observed in nature.

It should be remembered, in connection with this "extermination of savage races" stuff, that Darwin's generation was witnessing what we still witness today -- small tribes of indigenous people (then called "savages") seem unable to survive contact with civilized nations. This is going on today, in the Amazon rain forest, the Andaman Islands, and elsewhere. No policy of genocide is in effect. If Darwin described the facts that he observed, he was just doing his job.

175 posted on 02/11/2004 7:52:36 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Theory: a comprehensible, falsifiable, cause-and-effect explanation of verifiable facts.)
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