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To: Dscott_FR
Which part of his base has been completely alienated? Those who want every single policy/issue implemented 100% to their own ideals? Then, nobody will ever please that kind of "base."
715 posted on 02/08/2004 10:46:55 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Which part of his base has been completely alienated? Those who want every single policy/issue implemented 100% to their own ideals? Then, nobody will ever please that kind of "base."

You can believe if you want that the only people upset with Bush are the unappeasables. Given that there have been a lot of them at FR over the last two years, that perspective is understandable. However, let me tell you how I see it (and this is, of course, just my opinion and it is based on anecdotal evidence).

I live in Oklahoma, and I work at a Fortune 500 company, where by and large everybody I know in my neighborhood and everyone I work with is a mainstream conservative. Yet, just about every single person that I know has nothing positive to say about Bush (at least on domestic issues) and they are only motivated to vote for him because he is not Kerry or Dean. This is different from 2000. In 2000, myself and the people I associated with (although I lived in the Northeast then) were motivated to vote FOR Bush because we liked him and what he stood for. What I am hearing now from the mainstream people that I associate with (30's, 40's, kids, job, self-described conservative) is what I remember hearing in 1996. In 1996 most of us weren't FOR Dole, we were AGAINST Clinton.

When I observe among the mainstream conservatives that I know the attitude that was prevelant in 1996, rather than 2000, it scares the life out of me.

You can beleive all you want that the only people who have a problem with Bush are the unappeasables. You can beleive all you want that the recent polls showing Bush behind are the result of the primaries. Or, you can consider that perhaps Bush really isn't doing a very good job to motivate mainstream conservatives to vote for him. Perhaps you can consider that Bush's poll declines match EXACTLY with the recent attention give to his spending by CATO and the Heritage Foundation.

While I admire your support of the part and of the president, I do think that a lot of people here are failing to see that there is a true threat of a serious lack of enthusiasm among those who were so enthusiastic about his campaign in 2000.

724 posted on 02/08/2004 12:56:04 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: nicmarlo
Which part of his base has been completely alienated? Those who want every single policy/issue implemented 100% to their own ideals? Then, nobody will ever please that kind of "base."

You can crack snide comments about it, but the reality is that there are significant numbers of "the base" who are very disappointed in Bush2/1.0

Some of them say they'll hold their noses and vote for him anyway. Some say they won't vote for him. Some tell us that they are undecided. Others (including myself) are of the belief that the secret ballot is a critical foundational element of any free society, and refuse to say how, or even if they will vote.

753 posted on 02/09/2004 7:24:34 PM PST by Don Joe (I own my vote. It's for rent to the highest bidder, paid in adherence to the Constitution.)
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