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To: Dr Warmoose
Yes we have had these kinds of programs, but instead of reducing or eliminating them (like a conservative ought) he did the exact opposite and adopted the socialist's and anti-American and anti-constitutional stance and made these programs even more liberty robbing.

I understand that the Educational Bill is the one that the Rats aren't very happy with....it demands that teachers be responsible for doing a good job teaching. The NEA isn't too happy with this program, at all. I don't believe that the "No Child Left Behind" program is the end-all for education, but it sure has the Rats all up in arms and the NEA pissed off. Why would that be, if it really were pro-socialist in design? Bush has campaigned on getting the voucher programs implemented, so that a parent can decide where to place their children....it's the Rats who are against that.

George Bush's active attempts to tear down our borders, language and culture via the Amnesty Program. The President, in several speeches declared these felons as "honest, hard working people with strong family values."

I don't agree with Bush on his Amnesty program....but I agreed less with Clinton's, who just said, we'll just make all of you Americans, go ahead and cut in line...you're already here, we don't care, stay and drain our country by not working at all and take the Medicare that the citizens have paid into...Bush hasn't done that, has he?

Your Messiah has decreed by fiat that your money needs to be taken from you and routed to wherever the politicians feel benefits them the most. The temporary repeal of the "Death Tax" is sophistic manipulation where this president takes advantage of your naivete and ignorance of basic civics. The president cannot obligate, by law, future sessions of Congress in terms of taxation. Next year, Congress can vote for the repeal of the Death Tax...

Sorry, just because I will vote for Bush doesn't mean I call him my Mesiah...nice try.

The death tax...yes, it's up to Congress, isn't it? Not Bush. But, I'm very glad Bush, during his State of the Union Address went over their heads, declaring to the people, that Congress MUST keep that in force.

697 posted on 02/08/2004 8:10:36 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
I understand that the Educational Bill is the one that the Rats aren't very happy with...

Why? The 'Rats wrote it! The only liberal complaint about the "No Child Left With A Mind" program is that it "didn't go far enough". In fact, that it is the matra of all of the leftists who have nothing of substance against Bush's spending programs so essentially they are using the protest formula "If George spends $X billion, we will instantly complain that he should have spent $X+1 billion.

I spoke with conservative teachers who are facing this plan of stupidity from Washington. Nevermind the fact that this is federalizing a local issue (clearly the neo-cons no longer care for Jeffersonian strict constructionism), but what is happening is that the government is assuming that everyone is equally capable, and all of the previous idiotic programs have born no negative consequences. This is the pinnacle of government foolishness compounded by head-in-the-sand oblivion in that they pretend that illegal aliens still in ESL programs, years and years of dummied down education that emphasizes Look Say Reading, outcome based education, and other insults to common sense will magically disappear - the entire culture of Deweyism evaporates as soon as the ink on the law dries, and every single parent and guardian will automatically care about their children's education, that every bad teacher absorbed into the system and immersed in NEA anti-education tactics will instantly adopt and implement time proven teaching methods; and every child henceforth with pass all of their tests honestly; is the biggest crock of festering garbage I have smelled in a long time.

This same asinine program was adopted in Texas with the TAAS test, and it has been an utter failure. The teachers teach the test and little more. The entire year is spent being able to parrot a bunch of memorized answers sufficient so that the teacher and the school system can still get their grants and subsidies. What you are pleased as punch to see is a system where uncircumsised Philistines bureaucrats in Washington (probably soon to be made up exclusively of God-haters, queers, racists and Marxists) dictate what a "valid" education is. I suspect you imagine that these tests will remain apolitical. No more local control, every questionable program will be declared to be vital in complying with the dictates out of Washington. Then you have the wonderful tradition of grade inflation - only this time with a vengeance. No longer will grades mean anything, it is nothing more than an exercise in cooking the books since MONEY is (and always has been) the focus, not the education of the little reprobates.

But I believe the whole conservative ideology has been lost on people like you, for now you are apologizing for the existance of Jimmy Carter's socialist time bomb (DoEd began its wretched life in May 4, 1980) and think nothing about the reason for its being. Reagan wanted to kill the DoEd - you are praising and worshipping Bush for not only maintaining it, but by all accounts expanding its budget more than any other president since the prorgam's inception

I thank you for patiently revealing the new Republican Party, one that differs in no way whatsoever from the Socialist or the recent Demoncat party.

Every day, in every way, the John Birchers are being proven right.

698 posted on 02/08/2004 8:59:22 AM PST by Dr Warmoose
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