[Godebert]

"Dead, " liberty " will mean nothing to you. :-)

Good thing our founding fathers didn't have that attitude.

"Channeling again, or are you using an ouija board now ?"

Nope...just reading:

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve niethewr liberty nor safety....Benjamin Franklin, The MacMillan Dictionary of Political Quotations.

Checkmate.

[Jim Robinson]

Yeah, and those who would give up liberty AND safety and everything else we hold dear are simply fools. ~~ Jim Robinson

[nopardons]

Poor Ben (rather than " POOR RICHARD ",don'tcha know.), his words have been usurped, misused, and used to mean something they were NEVER meant to .

Tell me, did you knows, PERSONALLY KNOW, anyone who was murdered on 9/11 ? I DID!