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To: EternalVigilance; Missouri; Lazamataz
Lucky you. I am usually on the telephone around now, but the phone is on the fritz, and the computer works. Go figure.

Gosh almighty! You are the ones who have been doing most of the backbiting and bashing on this thread. It's a worn out tactic used by many of the Buchannan, *all-American* losers to twist and shred the truth as much as they can to TRY and make it SOUND conservative, but we all know what a sell out he was.

Incidentally, it was the fringe left that he sold out to and it makes me sick to see how he still clings to the *conservative* title, as if by wielding it like a weapon, one can intimidate someone with it, or fool some of the people all of the time...though I consider THOSE people beyond redemption.

So if THAT brand of fine, upstanding conservatisim is riding in with several of you posters on this thread, you lose every which way you turn.

This is the Premiere Conservative Website because at some point, we all had one common enemy, Bill Clinton. Now any one of you who threaten to withold, withdraw, vote third party, and lead this country down the path of Socialism from which there will be no return, I am not sorry to tell you that you are NOT conservatives, you are homewreckers, country wreckers...but NOT Conservatives. You will not achieve one single of your stated objectives with those tactics.

You want to b*tch? Tell it to the Democrats that have led us down this obscene path for over half a century. Complain about illegals from Mexico all you like. It was liberals who allowed it to become a wild thing, so out of control that you can't see that ONE small step in trying to solve it is more than any dem has ever done, anywhere, any time.
It was the democrats who threw money at them hand over fist, liberals who decided that biligual education was the way to go. Liberals who set up safehouses for illegals and demonstrated in sympathy for them. Liberals who decided they deserved free health care even if there were fifty of them in one family. Do you blame them for trying to get here with an open invitation, written on OUR money, signed, sealed, and delivered by the hard core left for votes to keep power as more and more people were weeding them out?

Why aren't you screaming blue murder at the NAACP for refusing to admit that black people are not a monolith and don't want to be remanded to ghetto life just to stay stupid and elect Communists. But BLAME BUSH for ALL of it. It only started three years ago, right? Dips.

You don't want gun control. I don't either. The agreement stops there. Gun control could NEVER have happened if we hadn't fallen asleep at the wheel; if we hadn't allowed a FEW to speak so loudly against the many. THAT is something we have to fight for. But as long as these third party critters vote on one vote, no gun law fantasies, and RINOs like Specter with his magic bullet theory are prevalent in our Capitol, this is a fight we will never win. As I previously stated, Bush's Justice Department has taken up the issue of the Second Amendment as it was so written into the Constitution. NO administration has ever done that. But Laz will keep playing with fluffy clouds and there will be no willingness to help the fight for REAL judges who KEEP the law, not make it. Bush cannot do this all alone, but he is trying, and I don't hear even a hint of good will for him because of it. And Laz, I never said STFU and take it. I don't.

Why aren't you just as up in arms about Canada, vis-a-vis Mexico, for seeding our cattle herds with diseased cows, in a deliberate, malicious attempt to destroy our beef production which would ultimately cost us much more severely on the world market, therefore here at home, trying to force us into third world status along with France and their buds at the UN?

Canada is the same country which refuses to pay market prices for pharmaceuticals, taxes their inhabitants for healthcare they never receive, and then sell underpriced drugs back into this country cheaper than their own citizens can buy them for, after they have already paid through the nose for them...and end up with megashortages so that Canadians have to come here, ACROSS an unguarded border, to buy what they need. ('Scuse the run-on sentence. It's a thing when I'm in a hurry.)

Canada is the same country that has no compunction against allowing terrorists into the country regardless of their status. Their network runs hard and fast through the US like a plague, but I don't hear you moaning and b*tching about the fact that major terrorist efforts have been stopped by the Border Patrol at the CANADIAN Border, not Mexico's. Canada helps the suckers. Where is the outrage, folks?

Some *poster* said something about Enron. For gosh sakes, kiddo! That was Terry (the Sleeze) McCauliffe and Billy Jeff. Why are you trying to pin THAT on Bush? Sour grapes and not too smart.

There used to be some good brains on this board. This thread shows some of that, but these *poor victim conservative* posts are ridiculous.

The DEFICITS will go down because more money will be made, more taxes will be paid, at lower rates that even today, and you will probably still be doing Marxist Economy 101 trying to prove it is all smoke and mirrors. Billy Jeff was all smoke and mirrors. Allegiences to that kind of thinking is what got us there in the last recession. Tax, tax, and swear you don't have a spare penny in the budget while billions of dollars are stolen from under our noses by the Clinton Administration, not to mention the destruction of most of our infrastructure and the sell-off of public lands, bribes to the BIA and DOI, the Commerce Department, inside the WhiteHouse and in every bureauracy in the nation, murders, Arkancides, drugs, terrorist coddling, oil stealing. Still no hint of gratitude for having a President who had all that and more to contend with upon taking his oath of office, not to mention a fit of orgiastic destruction in the White House and Air Force One.
You guys forget quickly don't you?

And now, I guess you will tell me how I am just all set on dividing Conservatives. Go right ahead, but you don't believe it, because it's a lie and you darn well know it.

I will fight as hard as I can to get conservatives elected. Buchannan ain't one of them. The ditz from the Libertarian party ain't one of them, and as much as I like Roy Moore, I hope he has better sense that to throw monkey wrenches into gears that might soon grind smoothly, but exceedingly slow.

Actually, I'd like to see Nader run again. Take some of the Arab vote away from the dumbocrats. But I'm sure they will get ALL of the Communist Vote. After all, Hanoi is backing Kerry. He allowed them to keep our POW/MIAs and closed the book on them. Anyone who threatens to withold a *conservative* vote, is voting for a cheap, aristocratic spoiled brat of a gigolo, Hanoi Jane, and against the USA. Period. To me, that is NO conservative.
783 posted on 02/08/2004 5:41:49 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: Nix 2
Sheesh. You follow up one shrill attack screed with a whole new one?

Your attempt to tie me to Buchanan is laughable, and despicable, and a sign of desperation on your part.

It's a shame, because some of the other things you're saying have merit. They just get lost in the clutter of your contempt for conservatives.

You can pretend that the conservative mainstream of the GOP are all a bunch of Buchanan loonies til the cows come home, but it is a lie.
785 posted on 02/08/2004 5:50:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
Why aren't you just as up in arms about Canada, vis-a-vis Mexico, for seeding our cattle herds with diseased cows, in a deliberate, malicious attempt to destroy our beef production...

*Affixing tin-foil hat*

786 posted on 02/08/2004 5:51:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
Gosh, reading that post is making my head hurt...I'm getting mental whiplash.

Look up the terms 'nonsequiter', 'red herring' and/or 'strawmen'...the thing is chock-full of them.
787 posted on 02/08/2004 5:55:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
"Complain about illegals from Mexico all you like. It was liberals who allowed it to become a wild thing..."

And you're here to tell us Dubya is actually DOING something positive about illegal immigration? Fact is, he's tossed kerosene on the fire. Gimme a freakin' break...

"Now any one of you who threaten to withold, withdraw, vote third party, and lead this country down the path of Socialism from which there will be no return, I am not sorry to tell you that you are NOT conservatives, you are homewreckers, country wreckers...but NOT Conservatives."

Nice rant, but rubber-stamp your own @ss if you must. The rest of us will retain the right to assess oue own evidence, and vote with our own conscience without listening to some faux-conservative with a bull-horn.

FYI, the direction the country's taking is already towards a sign-post that reads, 'SOCIALISM THIS WAY'...

But hey, if that's what helps win an election.

789 posted on 02/08/2004 6:16:30 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Nix 2
Lucky you. I am usually on the telephone around now, but the phone is on the fritz, and the computer works. Go figure.

Yeah, I feel like I won the lottery.

Gosh almighty! You are the ones who have been doing most of the backbiting and bashing on this thread. It's a worn out tactic used by many of the Buchannan, *all-American* losers to twist and shred the truth as much as they can to TRY and make it SOUND conservative, but we all know what a sell out he was.

A crude and clumsy lie, mixed with cowardly innuendo unbacked by facts.

Incidentally, it was the fringe left that he sold out to and it makes me sick to see how he still clings to the *conservative* title, as if by wielding it like a weapon, one can intimidate someone with it, or fool some of the people all of the time...though I consider THOSE people beyond redemption.

Nonsequiter.

So if THAT brand of fine, upstanding conservatisim is riding in with several of you posters on this thread, you lose every which way you turn.

Strawman. More cowardly innuendo.

This is the Premiere Conservative Website because at some point, we all had one common enemy, Bill Clinton. Now any one of you who threaten to withold, withdraw, vote third party, and lead this country down the path of Socialism from which there will be no return, I am not sorry to tell you that you are NOT conservatives, you are homewreckers, country wreckers...but NOT Conservatives. You will not achieve one single of your stated objectives with those tactics.

Strawman.

You want to b*tch? Tell it to the Democrats that have led us down this obscene path for over half a century.

They don't listen. We just work to throw them from office. Much more effective.

Complain about illegals from Mexico all you like.

Thank you for your gracious permission to exercise our God-given liberty to dissent, and to make our dissatisfaction with porous borders and an eroding American civilization known.

It was liberals who allowed it to become a wild thing, so out of control that you can't see that ONE small step in trying to solve it is more than any dem has ever done, anywhere, any time.

Strawman on top of twisted logic. Funny that you can turn an attack on RATs into an attack on conservatives in the short space of one sentence.

It was the democrats who threw money at them hand over fist, liberals who decided that biligual education was the way to go. Liberals who set up safehouses for illegals and demonstrated in sympathy for them. Liberals who decided they deserved free health care even if there were fifty of them in one family. Do you blame them for trying to get here with an open invitation, written on OUR money, signed, sealed, and delivered by the hard core left for votes to keep power as more and more people were weeding them out?

And your point is?

Why aren't you screaming blue murder at the NAACP for refusing to admit that black people are not a monolith and don't want to be remanded to ghetto life just to stay stupid and elect Communists.

As I told you before, they don't listen. We choose to work every day to remove them from power.

But BLAME BUSH for ALL of it.

Strawman. An invention of your imagination.

It only started three years ago, right? Dips.

Ad hominem, with no basis in fact, or precedent in this conversation. You see boogeymen where they don't exist.

You don't want gun control. I don't either. The agreement stops there.

Huh?

Gun control could NEVER have happened if we hadn't fallen asleep at the wheel; if we hadn't allowed a FEW to speak so loudly against the many. THAT is something we have to fight for. But as long as these third party critters vote on one vote, no gun law fantasies, and RINOs like Specter with his magic bullet theory are prevalent in our Capitol, this is a fight we will never win. As I previously stated, Bush's Justice Department has taken up the issue of the Second Amendment as it was so written into the Constitution. NO administration has ever done that. But Laz will keep playing with fluffy clouds and there will be no willingness to help the fight for REAL judges who KEEP the law, not make it. Bush cannot do this all alone, but he is trying, and I don't hear even a hint of good will for him because of it. And Laz, I never said STFU and take it. I don't.

That was the whiplash part for me. But I'll pick out one tiny bit of that mishmash: I was helping organize over 70 conservative organizations to go to the Senate and hold news conferences to support the President's judicial nominees. What were you doing?

Why aren't you just as up in arms about Canada, vis-a-vis Mexico, for seeding our cattle herds with diseased cows, in a deliberate, malicious attempt to destroy our beef production which would ultimately cost us much more severely on the world market, therefore here at home, trying to force us into third world status along with France and their buds at the UN?

That's just plain crazy.

Canada is the same country which refuses to pay market prices for pharmaceuticals, taxes their inhabitants for healthcare they never receive, and then sell underpriced drugs back into this country cheaper than their own citizens can buy them for, after they have already paid through the nose for them...and end up with megashortages so that Canadians have to come here, ACROSS an unguarded border, to buy what they need. ('Scuse the run-on sentence. It's a thing when I'm in a hurry.)

Nonsequiter.

Canada is the same country that has no compunction against allowing terrorists into the country regardless of their status. Their network runs hard and fast through the US like a plague, but I don't hear you moaning and b*tching about the fact that major terrorist efforts have been stopped by the Border Patrol at the CANADIAN Border, not Mexico's. Canada helps the suckers. Where is the outrage, folks?

Hard to do that when it hasn't even been discussed, and hardly seems pertinent to the conversation.

Some *poster* said something about Enron. For gosh sakes, kiddo! That was Terry (the Sleeze) McCauliffe and Billy Jeff. Why are you trying to pin THAT on Bush? Sour grapes and not too smart.

I guess I missed that. Didn't really think much of this thread was about the President at all, frankly. I think your ranting about those who are somehow railing on the President is nothing but a red herring.

There used to be some good brains on this board. This thread shows some of that, but these *poor victim conservative* posts are ridiculous.

Conservatives don't tend to be victims, or pacifists.

The DEFICITS will go down because more money will be made, more taxes will be paid, at lower rates that even today, and you will probably still be doing Marxist Economy 101 trying to prove it is all smoke and mirrors. Billy Jeff was all smoke and mirrors. Allegiences to that kind of thinking is what got us there in the last recession. Tax, tax, and swear you don't have a spare penny in the budget while billions of dollars are stolen from under our noses by the Clinton Administration, not to mention the destruction of most of our infrastructure and the sell-off of public lands, bribes to the BIA and DOI, the Commerce Department, inside the WhiteHouse and in every bureauracy in the nation, murders, Arkancides, drugs, terrorist coddling, oil stealing. Still no hint of gratitude for having a President who had all that and more to contend with upon taking his oath of office, not to mention a fit of orgiastic destruction in the White House and Air Force One. You guys forget quickly don't you?

*sigh*

And now, I guess you will tell me how I am just all set on dividing Conservatives.

You seem to be all set on dividing conservatives.

Go right ahead, but you don't believe it, because it's a lie and you darn well know it.

Au contraire.

I will fight as hard as I can to get conservatives elected.

A ray of sunshine in the midst of a very cloudy day.

= Buchannan ain't one of them. The ditz from the Libertarian party ain't one of them...

Nonsequiter and a cynical attempt to smear.

...and as much as I like Roy Moore, I hope he has better sense that to throw monkey wrenches into gears that might soon grind smoothly, but exceedingly slow.

We find a point of agreement and clarity.

Actually, I'd like to see Nader run again.

Again, agreement...Hallelujah!

Take some of the Arab vote away from the dumbocrats.

I was thinking more of the extreme left vote, but okay.

But I'm sure they will get ALL of the Communist Vote. After all, Hanoi is backing Kerry. He allowed them to keep our POW/MIAs and closed the book on them.

Possible.

Anyone who threatens to withold a *conservative* vote, is voting for a cheap, aristocratic spoiled brat of a gigolo, Hanoi Jane, and against the USA. Period. To me, that is NO conservative.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But the spirit in which you opine has an impact on how many do.

790 posted on 02/08/2004 6:29:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
Why aren't you screaming blue murder at the NAACP for refusing to admit that black people are not a monolith and don't want to be remanded to ghetto life just to stay stupid and elect Communists.

By the way, the organizations that I am associated with actively work EVERY election cycle to elect more conservative blacks and minorities, and to defeat the race pimps of the CBC and the NAACP.

Let's see your credentials on this subject.

791 posted on 02/08/2004 6:40:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Nix 2
I sat the hell down. I shut the f*** up. What else do you want as the flecks of spittle gather at the corners of your mouth?

No, I won't vote the way you demand, so give it up.

793 posted on 02/08/2004 7:19:54 PM PST by Lazamataz (I know exactly what opinion I am permitted to have, and I am zealous -- nay, vociferous -- in it!!!)
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To: Nix 2
We all know about how the democrats use immigration to increase their numbers (including illegals) to dilute the conservative/republican vote.

Link to F.A.I.R. article

This is a must read for President Bush and Carl Rove.

BTW. Lets not gloss over the fact that you started the bashing in your so-called editorial refering to some freepers as "demons".

796 posted on 02/08/2004 8:01:09 PM PST by Missouri
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