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To: Nix 2; hellinahandcart; Lil'freeper; NYC GOP Chick; big'ol_freeper; Carry_Okie
"Are you watching the teachers' union howling at the moon? They can't teach, so they blame the kids for not being able to learn. Bush gave them their chance. They are blowing it big-time. The more they try and steal our kids, the harder we fight, and the more they scream. But it will have its end and it will be under a Bush presidency. We need good minds to have better goals. No one knows that better than he does. The dems are freaking out over *No Child Left behind* because if a teacher can't teach, he/she has got to go. The dems would protect these stupid, moneygrubbers at any cost including the cost of your children's education."

This is a stupid post. NCLB has dictated that math be taught to special needs children that can't handle it. My ex-wife has told me what has been happening (she is a special education teacher). If the kids can't handle it, the test scores are down. If the test scores are down, the school suffers from the county education bureaucracy and people lose their jobs over a stupid, stupid one size fits all prescription.

76 posted on 02/07/2004 5:47:42 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: sauropod
the school suffers from the county education bureaucracy

And this points directly to Bush, how? Any chance at all that some democrats in charge of local school districts might just WANT to see this program fail...

Naw. That ain't possible. Of COURSE they want Bush to succeed rather than kidnap your kids from three years old on. If someone tried to make you park your gun with the government for 10 hours a day, and maybe find reasons why you shouldn't be allowed to own one if you don't agree with their POV, you would be on the fast end of a short fuse...but take the kids....please.

Yeah. That's the ticket.

92 posted on 02/07/2004 6:01:29 PM PST by Nix 2 (http://www.warroom.com QUINN AND ROSE from 6-10 AM-104.7 FM in da Burgh&WWVA AM)
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To: sauropod
Are you saying that special needs children CAN'T learn math?
129 posted on 02/07/2004 6:42:29 PM PST by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheny '04.)
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To: sauropod
"This is a stupid post. NCLB has dictated that math be taught to special needs children that can't handle it. My ex-wife has told me what has been happening (she is a special education teacher). If the kids can't handle it, the test scores are down. If the test scores are down, the school suffers from the county education bureaucracy and people lose their jobs over a stupid, stupid one size fits all prescription."

I'm sorry but your assertion is not even close to being accurate. First off, you imply that teaching math to "special needs" students is nearly impossible, as if special needs people are all retards and incapable of learning.

I mean, what the heck are special needs students anyway? (I hate that term. To some of today's elites, the term special needs applies to any and all who are not perfect students and/or those with even the slightest of behavior problems.

Consider: Not all kids are easy-as-pie to teach, and sometimes teachers have to adapt, although it seems many in today's teacher unions are reluctant to do just that.

Furthermore, the claim that people lose their jobs if test scores go down is just plain wrong, if not hysterically ridiculous.

I mean, there is not even a "county education bureacracy" in my part of the country.

In fact, county govt. in Bucks County, Pennsylvania has very little to do with education, execpt maybe to provide a few tech schools here and there for kids who want to learn the trades rather than academics. (Local school boards answer mostly to state govt.)

Forgive my perceived beligerence, but the author of the original post was spot on when he/she implied that the Dems are cukoo for going hysterical over GWB's "No Child Left Behind" legislation, which in reality is a long overdue means of getting teachers to make some extra efforts in teaching rather than just giving up and blaming everything on the existance of "special needs" students.

520 posted on 02/07/2004 10:54:39 PM PST by Edit35
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