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FLAME AWAY!!!
1 posted on 02/07/2004 4:31:25 PM PST by Nix 2
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So now, seniors have a prescription program

Yeah..one that will cost them just about as much as what they have now, and in some cases more. What this is about is a $500,000,000,000 gift to the drug companies that have been gouging the elderly and ill in order to subsidize cheap drugs outside our borders. For three months prior to this boondoggle, the drug companies had been wining and dining our politicians, giving large contributions in order to get them to ban the customers going off border to purchase their drugs at reasonable prices. What they got was the above mentioned gift, paid for by you and me. Reward for gouging America. Capische?
323 posted on 02/07/2004 8:57:48 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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"We have a good man as President." -- Nix 2
Are you talking about America's greatest liar in chief?
389 posted on 02/07/2004 9:28:03 PM PST by Buckeroo
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Very good Nix 2..........kinda feel like I've had a big can o' whoop a@# opened on me. Keep up the good work!
396 posted on 02/07/2004 9:30:45 PM PST by Dawgreg
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Votes aren't "weighted." The vote of the most unabashed "small govt.-cut spending" FReeper isn't any more valuable to W than the vote of the guy who "almost voted for Gore in 2000." Rove knows this: peeling off one vote more than half of the squishster middle is where the win is.
444 posted on 02/07/2004 9:51:48 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.")
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LOL

No one ....strike that....few here fight fire with fire and see poilitical struggle like the enemy does. Bush may, or may not, be the best thing since video tape...but he's a damned sight better than anything the enemy has to offer. To many, W is a bastard...but he's "our" bastard. There is a reason W is president. Be it Divine intervention or the unconcious collective good taste of the American people.

As it stands, there are no reincarnations of the calibre of the Founders. Not that any one of them would be seen as anything but a rabblerouser or an antiquity best stowed in a museum. We'll need more than one more term to undo the damage done to this nation. After Bush wins his second term, it'll be imperative that we groom the next person for renewal. The question is, who will it be?

That question is the daunting one.

454 posted on 02/07/2004 10:00:56 PM PST by Thumper1960
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"Other than listening to the demons wail about the deficit, what difference has it made in any of your lives? None."

Exactly. I keep hearing all this gnashing of teeth from "outraged" conservatives over the deficit, like it is the end of the world.

Granted, no one wants deficits and certainly conservatives, including myself, sternly criticized Clinton when he ran deficits for six of his eight years in office.

In reality, however, this current deficit doesn't change my life one iota. Nor did they in the 80s, nor did they during WWII, nor did they from 1992 thru 1998.

Also, I welcome the VOLUNTARY prescription plan for elderly, especially for those who cannot afford life-saving drugs. Are we to leave the old and afflicted out there to suffer because they cannot afford some of the newer, expensive drug therapies.

GWB IS compassionate, and for that I thank God.

Does the illegal immigration work program tick me off? Yes.

But I understand what GWB is trying to do politically. Most politically astute people do, and I think GWB knows and expects his 'proposal' will never even get off the ground, especially in election year.

To sum it up, the original poster's thoughts are spot-on.

I care much more about GWB's moral leadership, his support of faith, his sanity on issues of race, his judicial appointments, his confirmation of absolutes, his rational energy policy, his ban on partial birth abortion, his clarity in stamping out evil Muslim fanaticism.

It is time to stop the bickering. It is time to start doing what's right for the long-term health of this country.

476 posted on 02/07/2004 10:11:07 PM PST by Edit35
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We're winning the war on terror, and you're happy to misunderstand nearly everything else. Fair enough, vote for Bush.

I will too, but not for most of what you've written here,

The choir will love it though, I'm sure. Have fun.


494 posted on 02/07/2004 10:31:33 PM PST by Sabertooth (The Republicans have a coalition, if they can keep it.)
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Good Post - Nix 2
Nevertheless....
Some people ask US, what difference has THE DEFICIT made in any of your lives?
Are we supposed to be only able to think about today and not the future? ....We must think about the future.

That is why we conservatives dislike a half trillion dollar deficit, and the President has heard US.

That is why he says he will try to cut the deficit in half over the next 5 years.

Did 911 kill any of my brothers or sisters? Did I suffer any physical harm? No. Am I then to consider it something unimportant because it did not affect my life directly? No. We need to think ahead and we conservatives are doing just that.

So now, seniors have a prescription program and younger workers will have private health accounts. And we have a 500 BILLION dollar deficit in one year.

We need good minds, but will it be under a Bush presidency? Not likely. When you add the children of 10 million illegals to the schools, many who don't speak English, our schools will suffer. Additionally, with support by the president for NAFTA, more manufacturing jobs and companies will head out of this country, drying up money for schools.

The President also supports taking more jobs from American engineers by pushing for H1B visas which are more than 60,000 Hitech jobs EVERY year. Then there is the outsourcing which is hitting private sector employment.

And what about the retraining. We are talking about engineers here. Do you mean retraining them to flip burgers? And of course why retrain if you can just get someones from India on a Presidentially supported H1b visa to do the work for less?

WHEREIN lies the amnesty?

Definition:
the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals
Pardon:
the excusing of an offense without exacting a penalty.

12 million have broken the law by illegally invading this country. The penalty for that is not a fee. We do not sell this country nor its citizenship. The penalty is deportation. There will be no deportation.

So, no deportation means a pardon for 12 million = amnesty

Some people reply that no illegal will be able to get a job unless Americans expressly turn it down?

Notice that there is no mention about the salary. So if the job was paying 50k, and the employer offers it at 20k and "NO AMERICAN FILLS IT", well then its OK, the American citizen is then faced with a 60 percent cut in pay or having some Illegal Invading alien who has the Presidents support, take his or her job.
Of course, Americans will receive better training for BETTER jobs. Not.

Lets remember the 15 BILLION for Aids compared to the 1/2 billion for retraining in the SOU.

Will some of the jobs illegals take right now henceforth be open to our American teenagers? NO. These jobs will be taken by the next wave of amnesty encouraged 10 million Illegal Invaders that come swarming across our borders that the President prevents from being secured in a time of war. Employers will lie and or not care tomorrow just as they do today because the government will not be able to keep track of these tens of millions of Illegals that, keep on keeping on, over our wide open borders.

Oh, what about that auto weapons ban, who was for that?

Some say without President Bush we would have The Islamist State Department. Well with Bush we don't need one since our President has pronounced Islam the religion of Peace.

Some say President Bush has unraveled the stock market tangled yarn and then some. Of course, it was after the damage had been done. I don't think the President wants to revisit the E word, Enron.

Some say President Bush faced down the UN. Is that why he went to the UN before attacking? Is that why Colin Powell went to the UN to explain why we were attacking? Is that why we agonized and waited and fought it out with the French and Germans and Russian IN THE UN?

Some say with a bigger majority in the House and Senate, we will be able to do more.

Not if the trend of running RINOs for these seats continues. The reason we had to make a recess appointment was because there were soooo many RINOs in congress. Remember all we needed was a majority to change the rules, and by-golly, we have a majority in each house, but in reality we are way short in both houses.

The sticking point is Pro Life. The democrats make no secret of -ProAbortion- being one of their litmus tests.

The Republicans need a President who will enforce the ProLife Plank, who will stand his ground in the war to save 3000 innocent babies that are killed everyday.

The President needs to be at least as uncompromising for Life as the democrats are against it. The democrats would never have supported a ProLife candidate, the GOP and the President routinely do.

Mr. President, you have done many good things, and every time I see those scumbags like Micheal Moore and Al Franken, and the Hollywood crowd, I forget my misgivings, I see blood red, and wish the election were today so I could vote straight GOP.

Don't you think this Illegal Immigrant Plan has backfired? Don't you think keeping our borders undefended in time of War is a mistake? We have had almost 16 years of Republican Presidents since 1980 and still no secure borders. It is now or never.

Today I am not seeing Blood Red.

No Border No Vote.
609 posted on 02/08/2004 12:38:01 AM PST by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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I think the people who tend to believe in Bush are the kind of people who see the glass as half full, people who are just generally optimists. I trust in his judgment because so far I just haven't seen a reason not to. Unlike Clintoon who seemed creepy to me from day 1.
639 posted on 02/08/2004 2:35:08 AM PST by IrishRainy
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A Republican President should spend as much as possible (on conservative goals) so as to cripple the spending ability of later Democratic Presidents who cannot promote their own liberal projects due to high deficits and debt.


BUMP

653 posted on 02/08/2004 4:01:49 AM PST by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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Common sence wake up call
707 posted on 02/08/2004 7:59:46 AM PST by ezo4
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I won't flame you, but I'm not convinced. When I see spending REDUCED (not reduced increases) when I see the DEATH of the Dept Of Education, when I see the DEATH of the NEA (National Endowment for the Arts), when I see the DEATH of these socialist beureau's, and a severe reduction in not only spending AND my Taxes, THEN I will have reason to rejoice.

Until then, Bush is still Democrat Lite.

740 posted on 02/08/2004 2:12:42 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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No flames from here. In fact, I'll protect your back!

Excellent post. Another prime example of the ability of pragmatic conservatives to see the big picture. This post is a keeper.

760 posted on 02/08/2004 2:37:22 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: PhiKapMom; Wolfstar
PKM and Wolfstar....Bookmark this post, and add it to "Conservative Voices." (You know what I mean. ;-)
761 posted on 02/08/2004 2:39:26 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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I don't blame President Bush for all the bad things government does, or has done.
President Bush has done many things I approve of. He has also done some things I disapprove of.
I would expect the same thing can be said of any President of the United States in any generation.

The thing that gets me is that it is getting harder and harder to tell any difference between the two major partys. Not neccesarily the candidates, but the partys.
The only difference I see at the moment is that the Dems would treat terrorism as a crime and wait for it to happen on our shores and the Repubs would go after it on terrorists home ground.
That is the ONLY reason I will vote Repub this election year.

764 posted on 02/08/2004 2:43:31 PM PST by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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I agree with you about Al Gore handling 9/11=disaster. I don't think he would have had the wherewithal to go after the terrorists. His focus would have been toward the UN and What-did-we-do-to-make-them-so-angry-at-us? This would have had a devastating effect on US morale. Since most of the terrorist suspects would not have been rounded up due to UN negotiations and racial concerns, there would have been MANY more attacks against us.

I'm voting for President Bush first of all, because he is an unapologetic Christian. This matters the most to me.
Second is because he has vowed to protect our nation,( not through the UN.) and he supports our military.
Third he proved himself to be a great leader when we were attacked. If (and probably when) we are attacked again, he is the person I want in charge. I think he is doing the best he can for our nation.

The greatest difference that I can see between those here, who support the President and those who don't , comes down to how big of a threat each side views the democ'RATS as.

Those who are not supporting President Bush view the democ'RATS and Pubbies as equally dangerous to the country. They think a dem president would be as good as Bush at prosecuting the WOT, and protecting the country from another attack. The cost of electing a dem is apparently, not that high to them. They think the country can take another hit from a dem presidency,( in spite of the tremendous damage done by the last 8 years of the previous one).

Those who will vote for Bush this year see the exact opposite of this. They(and I) see the democ'RAT party as the biggest threat we face. They (D's) are far and away more dangerous than the pubbies. Kerry has stated he would turn the Iraq war over the UN. He also stated he doesn't deem terrorism that big of a threat. (What more proof do the anti-bush people need?)

The non-Bush supporters think a pubbie controlled House and Senate will somehow reign in a dem president? Did it work with Clinton? Look at all the trouble the dems are making now, as the minority party (judicial nominees exc..) They are NOT going to follow the rules if they gain the presidency.

Look at the Mass. Supreme Court ruling, on gay marriage. The leftist judges pretty much said "gays will be able to marry legally, weather people like or not-we have spoken". Now take that tactic, multiply it by 1,000 and you have what a dem presidency will be like.

I could name many other reasons why I will be voting for GW this fall. The other one that stands out to me is that , if a 'RAT is elected, they will be in charge of the military. I don't want our soldiers to have to serve under a dem, PERIOD. Also, a they will wreck the War in Iraq,( UN) and all the sacrifice's the military made there will mean nothing. The 'RATS complain about it everyday anyway, what do you think they will do if they get the presidency?

I can't stand the demo'rat party. I haven't forgotten the 8 years of Clinton, and I haven't forgotten the absolutely disgraceful way the dems have acted since 9/11. They don't give a flying frisbee about our nation. They want us to be diminished "We have too much power, we scare other nations, that's why we are hated." Remember statements like that? (Personally-I think Clinton and his "World Wide Apologize for the USA" tours during his presidency, played a big part in AlQueda seeing us as weak and thinking we'd crumble under attack)

In any case, there is NO WAY I wouldn't vote for President Bush. I may not agree with him about everything, but that doesn't change my opinion of him as a great leader. He got us through 9/11. Our troops like him. He RESPECTS them and the sacrifices they are asked to make. We are in the middle of a war and still recovering from the biggest attack in our nations history. I'm staying with the team that has gotten us through it . I wouldn't trust a democrat ( the majority of them-with maybe one or 2 exceptions) to clean up after my dogs droppings in the backyard.- Much less elect to give one the power of the presidency.

Just my 2 and 1/2 cents.

816 posted on 02/08/2004 11:27:49 PM PST by fly_so_free (Never underestimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA -Vote a dem out of office)
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