[Dimensio]

Anyone who believes/assumes Man is the highest of the beings is a secular humanist.

While I can't say to know that he does not believe this, I don't recall that he ever stated that he does believe this. Where did you get this idea?

[Chris Talk]

I don't presume to say that FReeper X or Y or Z is or is NOT a secular humanist, though I think someone on here pleaded guilty to being one today.

I was merely attempting to give a concise definition of the term itself. By definition, whatever you think is the highest being is one's standard of value or "god."

Humanism would be proven wrong if, for example, there were UFO aliens who are higher than ourselves. They would then become our "gods" in a von-Daniken sense, unless perhaps we were to learn that they in turn were but agents, angels, servants, messengers of some yet higher being(s).

Unless the definition can be established, the term is just a buzzword that prevents thinking. That is what I was trying to avoid, and it was not I who brought up the term into the discussion.