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To: D Rider
”It is not a contradiction. Wolves help create the effect, due to their behavior. They exacerbate the natural cycle. Making management difficult, and possibly politically impossible.”

To me it is a contradiction. Either you want to claim that wolves destroy everything in site and leave a lifeless desert or wolves are a part of the boucning ball effect in which the number of prey and wolves ebbs and flows. I believe in the natural cycle. I find the claim that wolves kill everything in sight to be patently false.

Wolves don't prey on each other, (unless, possibly, they are starving.)

Wolves kill each other when they are in competition for the same territory.

”They move on to find other sources. The point of "stomping" on the wolves in order to manage them is to never let them get to a point that the food supply drops to a point that they do move on. To keep wolves happy they have to be fed properly. Unhappy wolves are hungry wolves, those are the ones that move to happier locations... like sheep ranches.

I want to see wolves kept in territory, as I have said previously.

”I am for happy wolves that stay where we want them.

I am for happy wolves too. And I repeat one more time, I want to see them kept in territory.

”The wolf is not the problem. Also, the problem is not IF wildlife professionals can manage them or not, they can. And I did not say or imply that I want to stomp on them. But understand this, I am accurately describing the result of what professional management will look like. It will look ugly.”

I’m not sure what you mean by “ugly”. Once wolves are delisted – there will be legalized hunting of wolves. That will reduce their numbers. Is that what you are talking about?

”You see, the problem is really political, when people see what wolf management looks like, they just won't stand for it. And from that statement of yours, it is clear, you and people like you are the real problem.”

In your mind I am “the real problem”. But I don’t agree with you :-) People like me are a real problem for people like you and people like you are a real problem for people like me :-) It’s a two-way street. I do think that the public wants the wolf recovery to succeed and that that means that the wolf haters have a terribly high threshold to overcome in order to exterminate wolves. I suspect that that is why there is so much hyperbole and exageration among the anti-wolf sites and the anti-wolf crowd – they are trying to find some way to create hysteria so that they can change public opinion. That’s how it looks to me right now.

” So here is my bottom line: Until people are educated and ready to practice responsible conservation, then I lean to getting rid of the US population of wolves. That is, until such time that we are ready for it. Your sentiments incline me think, that for now, wolves should remain in Canada and Zoo's.”

Well we don’t agree. And as I say, it looks like the public wants wild wolves – not captured ones in zoos. I like this article :-) :

Will wolves decimate Yellowstone's elk herd?

260 posted on 02/20/2004 10:10:57 PM PST by Sunsong (John Kerry, who rose without a trace, with no accomplishments but his own advancement)
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To: Sunsong
”It is not a contradiction Wolves help create.... Will wolves decimate Yellowstone's elk herd?

Yada Yada Yada. I am sorry that you don't understand the principles of wildlife management.

Let me ask you a question. Do you even know why wolves were reintroduced into Jellystone?

264 posted on 02/23/2004 8:21:34 PM PST by D Rider
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