What aren't we arguing about?
We are discussing how deeply we should be expected to French-kiss liberals in order to win in November, basically.
What is better than wining? Losing on "principle"? That'll work.
Oh, I've French kissed a few liberals in my day! Not entirely a bad experience. *L*
But then, I have also kissed the Blarney stone, and people pee on that all the time! *L*
I have NO standards, me.