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To: Sabertooth
Karl Rove has jerked Tancredo around for a couple of years, when he should have listened to him. Tancredo owes him nothing. The Bush Amnesty is a colossal blunder, both as politics and policy, and all of the voices now trying to silence the tide that has swelled against it are the same voices who would see, hear, and speak no evil throughout the Predsident's first term.

It was a PROPOSAL and is not policy. It is already obvious that whatever passes the Congress won't bear much of a resemblance to it.

This is not the first time that Tancredo has pulled one of these breeches of confidence, and it probably won't be the last.

After all, he has found THE issue on which he can get air time on the news networks. I imagine that after this little story, he will get another round of interviews and maybe a spot on Larry King.

Meanwhile, no one is addressing TANCREDO's guest worker program. Everyone thinks that Tancredo will institute massive deportation, as far as I can tell.

Why should Tancredo NOT expect to be jerked around? He has repeatedly come out opposing the President on immigration, first by griping that he wasn't doing anything, and then opposing the President's idea of a solution. He has done this at the very time that the President is trying to increase Hispanic support in the party, and he has made no effort to sound conciliatory.

Piffle. If Karl Rove went to the papers quoting things Tancredo had said in a closed meeting, you would be livid. Just because it is Tancredo and he happens to support your point of view you think it is A-ok.

Constituents of Tancredo should ask themselves whether he is doing his best for the people of his district, or whether he is using a single issue to give himself a higher profile.

265 posted on 02/06/2004 7:48:45 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
It was a PROPOSAL and is not policy.

That's really a distinction without a difference, as the Bush Amnesty outlines a policy proposal.

It is already obvious that whatever passes the Congress won't bear much of a resemblance to it.

Sounds like the reassurances we had for CFR or Prescription Drugs.

Anything coming out of Congress that Amnesties Illegals would be a disaster.

This is not the first time that Tancredo has pulled one of these breeches of confidence, and it probably won't be the last.

After all, he has found THE issue on which he can get air time on the news networks. I imagine that after this little story, he will get another round of interviews and maybe a spot on Larry King.

Perhaps if Karl Rove hadn't burned him on the issue where Tancredo has a better grasp of what the American people want than does either Rove or President Bush, they wouldn't be clashing. Karl Rove made this bed a couple of years ago when he banished Tancredo from the White House.

Now Tancredo gets payback. Boo hoo. Rove blew it.

Meanwhile, no one is addressing TANCREDO's guest worker program. Everyone thinks that Tancredo will institute massive deportation, as far as I can tell.

I've addressed it. Tancredo's guest worker program would not be available for Illegals, only to foreign nationals applying from their country of origin. Illegals would have to self-deport to be eligible.

There are problems with Tancredo's plan, however, where it resembles the President's, in that both indulge the "any willing worker to any willing employer" folly. There have to be numeric caps. We can't have every new job in America placed up for grabs to six billion potential underbidders.

Why should Tancredo NOT expect to be jerked around? He has repeatedly come out opposing the President on immigration, first by griping that he wasn't doing anything, and then opposing the President's idea of a solution. He has done this at the very time that the President is trying to increase Hispanic support in the party, and he has made no effort to sound conciliatory.

This is so backwards.

The President has come out in opposition to the American people on Illegal Aliens. Tancredo is with us.

The President has risked alienating many Republicans and swing voters with this Amnesty proposal at the very time we're fighting the WoT and the institution of marriage is under attack.

There will be no conciliation of the President's Amnesty. Haven't you been listening the past three weeks, if not the past three years?

Piffle. If Karl Rove went to the papers quoting things Tancredo had said in a closed meeting, you would be livid. Just because it is Tancredo and he happens to support your point of view you think it is A-ok.

You've incorrectly read my mind. I want this debate wide open.

Constituents of Tancredo should ask themselves whether he is doing his best for the people of his district, or whether he is using a single issue to give himself a higher profile.

Why is it that everyone else is accountable, but never President Bush?

You've used one excuse after another to give him a pass on every bad move he's made. You can still support him without being disingenuous.

Heck, I support him. and more now than I did Monday, as a result of the Massachusetts Supreme Court's gay marriage decision. To me, that's leapfrogged way past the WoT and Illegals as the most imminent threat to American civilization.

However, there's no way on earth that I can hold this President unaccountable and above criticism when he blunders as badly as he has with his Amnesty proposal. I've been warning about this issue for two years, and that it would threaten Republican prospects in 2004. Now it's happened quite as I've said, just as CFR went wrong quite as I said, just as Prescription Drugs are overbudget quite as I said, just as Schwarzenegger has double-crossed on CDLs for Illegals quite as I said.

The problem here is President Bush, and his resolute unwillingness to diligently enforce our immigration laws, preferring instead a large Amnesty for millions of Illegal Aliens. Two-thirds of Americans have consistently hated the idea of Amnesty, and that will not change.

I submit that the time for pretending there isn't a problem is long over.


293 posted on 02/06/2004 8:34:57 AM PST by Sabertooth (The Republicans have a coalition, if they can keep it.)
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To: Miss Marple; hellinahandcart
"This is not the first time that Tancredo has pulled one of these breeches of confidence"

If Tancredo has done this, more power to him! A lot more than some on this forum are willing to give the country.

596 posted on 02/06/2004 6:40:08 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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To: Miss Marple; NYC GOP Chick; cyborg; hellinahandcart
"He has done this at the very time that the President is trying to increase Hispanic support in the party, and he has made no effort to sound conciliatory."

Whoopdie-Kerrying-Doo!

597 posted on 02/06/2004 6:41:56 PM PST by sauropod (I'm Happy, You're Happy, We're ALL Happy!)
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