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Judge Rules in Favor of Clarett
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| 2/5/2004
| By Bucknuts.com Staff
Posted on 02/05/2004 10:11:42 AM PST by smith288
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To: Lost Highway
I think the NFL likes the college football system since it provides a free minor leagues to help screen talent for them. I think this screening is more important in football than basketball, because it provides proof about a young player's ability to take a beating and to handle resposibility.
Claret's brief college experience has proven that he can neither take a beating nor handle responsibility. Despite this ruling he should stay at OSU and try to change this impression.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:31:58 AM PST
by
Gaetano
To: Lost Highway
I just don't understand why the NFL wants this rule. Why don't they let the freedom of competition decide wether someone is able to play in the NFL. It's sort of the apprentice/journeyman/master setup that has sadly disappeared from society. They didn't necessarily want players with the most raw talent, but seasoned and mature players who have learned to play on a team at two separate levels. This lowering of the bar to entry could be one source of all of the problems and indiscretions we've been having with athletes in recent years.
To: connectthedots
Whether this decision is best for the NFL or college footbal is not the point; Clarett's rights are. Is the entire concept of having a draft even legal? Shouldn't a player have the right to sign with whatever team he wants (provided they want him), instead of having his employer dictated to him by the league?
To: smith288
uhh, 'cuz they don't want to mess up the minor leagues, er, I mean the Div 1 colleges.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:37:11 AM PST
by
dmz
To: writer33
It's not going to ruin the NFL since the NFL, unlike the NBA, is not saddled with guaranteed contracts of players who either haven't shown they can play or players who prime is long past. In the NFL at least the teams have the ability to cut nonperformers and not have to pay them. Player wannabes are going to have to think a lot harder about coming out early because nothing is guaranteed. In the NBA, you fool a team into drafting your unprepared butt in the 1st rd and they hand you a massive guaranteed 7yr contract so you're set for life.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:39:26 AM PST
by
Jedi Master Yoda
(Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.)
To: gdani
You're right. BBall is so much more interesting than it was when Moses entered the league.
You got guys who don't even understand how to beat a trap listed as top guys in the league.
I'm a Sixers fans and even with AI's year (or two) at Georgetown, I really don't think he's that smart about the game. Lord knows Larry Brown tried.
The game stinks.
As it is, I can barely deal with the NFL and all of the timeouts and rules that slow down the game. Getting a bunch of ignorant kids out there isn't going to make it move quicker. Guaranteed.
For every dude on your list, there's at least 3 who shouldn't have been drafted. And every one of those players would've been even better if they had gone to school first.
Heck, make college ball semi-pro like it practically is, that's cool.
But don't draft and sell kids and tell me they're professionals. They ain't.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:40:56 AM PST
by
dyed_in_the_wool
("For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible" - GWB)
To: antiRepublicrat
One trend I have noticed (especially in the QB position) is that the NFL has been using the Arena and World league as "Class AAA" farm teams. The right amount of seasoning for a rookie with little or no pressure is achieved. Look at the progress and success of Delhomme and the Rams QB, both arena and world league products. I don't see this as an opening of the floodgates for players to come out early, as the teams are worried about another Ryan Leaf or Brain Bosworth.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:42:51 AM PST
by
cport
To: Jedi Master Yoda
I hope the NFL doesn't draft him. Send up to Canada to grow a little manhood first.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:43:54 AM PST
by
writer33
(The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
To: gdani
Oh, he will be drafted early, you can count on that. Someone will make that mistake, and when he's beaten into the ground by players who are bigger, stronger, and faster, maybe they will learn, but probably not.
The thing is, every NFL player I've seen quoted on this issue has said that college is essential in order to gain the necessary strength and speed to compete in the NFL.
If anything, Clarett is going get hurt really bad really fast.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:46:18 AM PST
by
vikk
To: dmz
There is a minor league, its called the EFL (Euroweenie football league) and many talented players went there and are now successful NFL stars.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:47:22 AM PST
by
smith288
(If terrorist hate George W. Bush, then he has my vote!)
To: vikk
Someone will make that mistake, and when he's beaten into the ground by players who are bigger, stronger, and faster, maybe they will learn, but probably not. NFL player sizes wont matter as Clarett is as big, strong and as fast as NFL players. But he is a tad flimsy on the toughness side. Smaller people will hurt him before anyone bigger will. He is that fragile.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:49:23 AM PST
by
smith288
(If terrorist hate George W. Bush, then he has my vote!)
To: dyed_in_the_wool
It will definitely hurt college football and every other NCAA sport. The big time programs make huge amounts of money on football which essentially pay for all the other programs that otherwise couldn't exist (especially the womens' programs). It is one big can of worms that this judge just opened.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:51:38 AM PST
by
katana
To: smith288
and what % of current rosters came directly from college as opposed the NFL Europe.
My sense is that college is way out in front, but I honestly do not know.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:54:08 AM PST
by
dmz
To: Petronski
and I don't think the CFL is a viable alternative. Does the CFL pay their players? If so then they are a viable alternative. If they aren't then I'm going to sue to get paid 10 times what Imake now doing the same exact thing
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:55:32 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: PackerBoy
and will be injured before the regular 2004 NFL season starts. Very badly, during training camp, as soon as the older, bigger guys who's place (and money) he's trying to take get a chance to hit him.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:57:22 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: smith288
Too bad for the NFL. It's had its troubles, but it aint seen nothing yet! My fearless prediction is that we will see many youths who are dysfunctional who will go to the NFL and two things will happen. First: they will have lots of legal problems. Second: Because of their youth, they will physically break down faster than someone who has survived four years of college. Another sport soon to go the way of the NBA.
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posted on
02/05/2004 10:57:57 AM PST
by
Enterprise
("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
To: John O
True. If I were an older player competing with someone barely out of high school who was trying to take my position, and my PAYCHECK, I would cripple him!
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posted on
02/05/2004 11:00:33 AM PST
by
Enterprise
("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
To: connectthedots
Whether this decision is best for the NFL or college footbal is not the point; Clarett's rights are And how are his rights being violated by being denied a job that he's not qualified for? The rules are the rules. If they let him play then they also have to let 20 year olds be elected president. Same deal. He's not old enough (mature) yet for that game.
(Recognize that not all Calvinists will be Christians in glory.
And there's absolutely nothing they can do about it either according to Calvinist thought)
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posted on
02/05/2004 11:00:57 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: PackerBoy
1. This will have little impact on the NCAA or NFL, as most players will still want to maximize their value in the draft by waiting until after their junior year to go pro.
I wonder if it might start to reduce the farcical "scholar athlete" model in some colleges. Then again, college basketball is filled with non-students, so who knows.
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posted on
02/05/2004 11:01:02 AM PST
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
To: katana
I had forgotten about that angle. College football will be degraded too!
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posted on
02/05/2004 11:01:59 AM PST
by
Enterprise
("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
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