[Sabertooth]

You have your facts slightly wrong. The Senate never voted on Kyoto. Clinton refused to submit it to the Senate for ratification, since he knew it would be rejected, and he wanted to keep it alive.

The 97-0 vote was not on Kyoto, but rather on the Byrd-Hagel resolution, which was phrased in a way that made opposition to the resolution politically impossible

Thanks for the correction. I should have read a little deeper while I was Googling.

while the Byrd-Hagel amendment got 0 votes against it, the support for it could be better guaged by the vote on McCain/Lieberman's "Kyoto Lite" bill S.139 which got 43 votes. Not enough support to get it through yet, but close enough for worry.

It's still a far cry from the 60 votes needed to break a filibuster, or the 67 needed to actually ratify the Kyoto Treaty.

Which is why it was good, and important, that Bush put a stake through the heart of Kyoto.

Fair enough, I'll retract my National Pickle Week comparison. However, I still maintain that "Bush killed Kyoto" is highly over simplified. A lot of people killed Kyoto.

[William McKinley]

Fair enough, as long as we can agree that rumors that video killed the radio star were vastly overstated.