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Edwards Only Democrat to 'Personally' Oppose 'Gay Marriage'
cnsnews.com ^ | 04-Feb-2004 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:01 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper

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1 posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:03 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper; jwalsh07
I wonder if someone will ask Kerry what differences he sees between his vision of civil unions and marriage other than the name? Is this just an untruth in labeling act? I wonder if someone will ask Kerry if a civil union partner should be able to avail themselves of the Social security benefits of his partner just like a spouse does?

I support gay marriage, and make no bones about it, but deflective disingenuous bs should be pounced upon each and every chance one gets. Just say what you mean, and mean what you say. I guess that is a recipe for unelectibility, so perhaps I am being a bit demanding of the political entrepreneurial class. Maybe that is the problem: most of them are political entrepreneurs.

2 posted on 02/04/2004 8:54:14 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
It will be interesting to see if he's in a holding pattern on this issue, or perhaps on a later day and time he'll start waffling all over the place as most politicians tend to do on such hot button issues as this one, depending on whether he's targeting more Moderate voters on FOX, and then an hour later, he makes an appearance on CNN and stammers and stutters and gives a half-assed open ended answer that goes unchallenged by the leftist political correspondant on CNN, who's sole purpose is to see that he makes it to Boston at the convention unscathed, much like Clinton.
3 posted on 02/04/2004 9:07:26 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
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To: Howlin; Tamsey; Mo1; gatorbait; onyx
John Edwards policy position *ping*
4 posted on 02/04/2004 9:13:16 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Is this Edwards' "Sistah Souljah" moment?
5 posted on 02/04/2004 9:15:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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Dang, but these Democrats are a stupid bunch.

Even Clinton had the brains to oppose same-sex marriage.


6 posted on 02/04/2004 9:16:45 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: dfwgator
Is this Edwards' "Sistah Souljah" moment?

Nope, it's Edwards having it both ways:

In contrast, Sen. John Edwards is the only candidate to have openly opposed "gay marriage," while taking a firm stand against the Federal Marriage Amendment, which would prohibit activist judges from creating such a legal category. Edwards supports marriage-like benefits and privileges for homosexual cohabitants, as well.

"As I have long said, I believe gay and lesbian Americans are entitled to equal respect and dignity under our laws," Edwards said in response to the court's November 2003 decision. "While I personally do not support gay marriage, I recognize that different states will address this in different ways, and I will oppose any effort to pass an amendment to the United States Constitution in response to the Massachusetts decision."

Because of the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, the only way that the Massachusetts decision can be prevented from making same-sex marriage a national institution is by a CMA.

Edwards' promise means nothing. It's the same as favoring same-sex marriage.


7 posted on 02/04/2004 9:29:46 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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Ironically, that crossed my mind that perhaps this is a Sistah Souljah moment for Edwards. If it is, we'll see his Clintonesque qualities come to fruition.
8 posted on 02/04/2004 9:30:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
It's his position today...... Of course, he might be doing this to give an appearance of sanity to the upcoming ticket , or, perhaps to buy his place as the figurehead of the DLC. Ah well..
9 posted on 02/04/2004 9:31:41 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Sabertooth
Nope, it's Edwards having it both ways:

Saber, that gave me a visual I think I'd have just as soon skipped.......:- )

10 posted on 02/04/2004 9:33:22 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: gatorbait
The Clintons are grooming this guy big time. I can sense it from this article.
11 posted on 02/04/2004 9:34:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
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To: Sabertooth
Doesn't Ted Kennedy personally oppose abortion? Just asking. You are right of course, what Edwards said is a classic verbal obfuscation designed to avoid taking a stand on the issue, which of course per the end game, is embracing a policy, but the end games on non policy policies are for the pointy heads to fret about, and granted, often don't ensue as the pushing and shoving causes mid course corrections.
12 posted on 02/04/2004 9:34:33 PM PST by Torie
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To: gatorbait
I did too, but you beat me to the punch. LOL :)
13 posted on 02/04/2004 9:35:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If the Clintons are grooming Edwards, it is odd that they did not force Clark out of the race yesterday. Clark is eating up Edwards alive, and reducing his chances from double digit odds to single digit odds of taking the gold. And just why would the Clintons want Edwards to take the silver?
14 posted on 02/04/2004 9:36:38 PM PST by Torie
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Doesn't Ted Kennedy personally oppose abortion?

I believe he takes them one bridge at a time.


15 posted on 02/04/2004 9:37:42 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: Sabertooth
You are on a roll tonight. LOL.
16 posted on 02/04/2004 9:38:19 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Someone is going to have to fall on the sword. They (Clintons) may be employing the two pronged attack. The Clintons I suspect couldn't care less who fell on that sword, as long as one of them remains in the dog fight til the end. Deep down, its a struggle to remain in charge of the Democratic party as a whole.
17 posted on 02/04/2004 9:41:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Jimi Hendrix campaign music. John Effin Kerry's subliminal message that says "I served in Vietnam")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The Clintons are grooming this guy big time. I can sense it from this article.

Yes,indeed they are. Edwards was , a year ago or so, their boy.When it appeared he was faltering(something I think he'll do again) they leapt onto the odious Wes Clark. Clark self destructed pretty handily, something his new friends were not expecting,Edwards, like the good little golden retriever he is,just sat, wagging his Gucci tail, waiting for his masters' call. I understand Bill himself made the initial calls and Hillary! did the scut work in the Senate .We shall see how he does.Edwards does not need to "win" to "win" .

18 posted on 02/04/2004 9:41:37 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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And just why would the Clintons want Edwards to take the silver?

Can't remember which show, but the rumor I heard is that Kerry and Edwards had a deal to let Edwards take SC, to get on the board. That way, Edwards can go the distance as Dean fades, and be Kerry's VP choice.


19 posted on 02/04/2004 9:41:52 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Edwards has publicly said he thought gays and lesbians should be allowed to adopt children.


20 posted on 02/04/2004 9:42:38 PM PST by Notasoccermom
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