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Your bible quote in #75 had nothing to do with his statement "There's nothing Biblical about being able to be saved once you're dead". I say that as a Christian not to harrass you but to point this out so others are not misled. I know of nothing in the Bible that says you can accept Christ after death and be saved although much is said about every knee will bow etc.

The Bible says:

It is appointed unto man, once to die, and after death, the judgment.

We do NOT know God's definitions of each word or phrase in that sentence. We don't even know if God adjusts His definitions in a tailor made way to each individual. We just don't know a lot of things about the moment of death.

There are stories of reliable Believers which are interesting but not the same as Canon Scripture.

I am confident that Roland Buck was right. Other convincing believers have said similar things and how shocked they were when God told them.

But all such is still GOD'S DOMAIN. It is hideously presumptive to think everyone will have a chance at the point of death to decide again. The Scriptures AND EVEN THE REPORT OF FOLKS LIKE ROLAND BUCK POINT OUT THAT SUCH IS ****NOT**** THE CASE.

One had best insure that one is on God's side NOW.

None of us have the promise of tomorrow chisled in stone from Mt Sinai.

I have felt that The Scripture about Believers being able to forgive and it being forgiven in Heaven may be one route which allows SOME to have an opportunity to choose at THE POINT OF death. But it's not something I'd try and make a doctrine. It's just a personal convinction which I believe God has given me insight on. I believe it's true. But it's not anything I'd want anyone to risk anything on--especially eternal life.

But I do forgive a long list of people and types of people at the slightest leading in my spirit. I want to give God every opportunity to apply that Scripture about whatsoever we forgive, being forgiven.

I know of nothing in the Bible that says you can accept Christ after death and be saved although much is said about every knee will bow etc.

and there is nothing said in the bible about folks being DEAD as soon as they flatline either. IF scripture is to be believed, LAZARUS was capable of hearing Jesus DAYS after his death. The little girl Jesus raised had been showing no signs of life for a while, when Jesus came.

There's also an old testament story about the bones of one of the prophets... elijah or elisha... some folks threw a dead body into the grave site of the particular prophet and the 'DEAD' person came back to life.

Even when folks are DEAD to us, they may not be fully DEAD to God. God can choose to draw the line where he may. And apparently, he has on occasion NOT drawn the line where we would.

There may be a period of time wherein death has NOT become final... and in all NDE's, they NDE has as far as we know come back, WITH their story... therfore, when WE thought they were dead, to God and in reality, THEY were not yet so.

Otherwise they could not have returned to consciousness.

I'm not interested in getting into a debate about this, but if the gates of Hell are open (they won't prevail against His church, the Bible says so), I don't think there will be many who are stupid enough to remain there (though there will probably be a few, since many are stupid enough to reject Him in this life). There are many other such verses (1 John 2;2, 1 Timothy 4:10 are some of the more obvious ones).

Like I said, I don't want to get into a debate (this has been debated ad nauseum on other websites, and is somewhat off topic for this site), but I may not be the one who is misleading people. My God is not going to burn anyone endlessly, without the chance of escape. That is not the definition of Love. If you want further info pointing you to more information, please freepmail me. If not, you believe what you want to believe, and I'll do the same.