[hirn_man]

"The leaders of the Confederacy were correct, philosophically, on the issue of succession, and quoted the Framers at length to prove their point. Of course, there is no more solid way to lose a political debate than to lose a war over the precise issue. So, after Lee handed Grant his sword at Appomatox Courthouse, no state had any right to leave the union."

We can at least agree that while wars are a terrible way to set precedent, they do set solid precedent. If the Supreme Court would of sought to overturn the results of the war, they would not of been impeached, they would of been drug out of the courtroom and hung in the streets(my opinion obviously).

[tpaine]

If you haven't already realized this detail, debating with Congressman Billybob is like trying to teach a pig to sing.
It wastes your time and it annoys the pig.
This wannabe gentleman who has, unfortunately, expropriated the name "Congressman" is on no better behavior than usual.

It is quite apparent that, if elected to Congress, he would work to allow states to violate our Bill of Rights.
Far to many such socialistic statists already infest those halls..