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To: tpaine; Scenic Sounds
tpaine: I meant that your table -- that first one, was too summarified. And in that over-summarification represented your own forcing of a polarity upon the two men.

It was Jefferson who threw together a Navy and first projected our Naval power throughout the world and and Jefferson who somehow found a grant in the Constitution to buy the Louisania Territory.

This acts -- especially the details of the first Barbary War show Jefferson to be an immensely practical executive, well-grounded and adeptly footed at the same time. And despite Scenic Sounds later additions of Hamilton's own comments, I am hard pressed to imagine that a man who clearly understood limited and enumerated powers -- that is Hamilton, would be so unlimited even by what he meant when he said "plenary powers" for the use of tax revenues.

Do not be giving "general welfare" two distinct meanings at the same time. Hamilton gave it one: the use of Federal revenues and grants must directly benefit the whole and not particular individuals, corporations, groups, or geographic locations. (To damn "scholar" Robert Byrd, that is.)

A sitting Judge at trial has plenary powers -- they have there limits, and can not be blue-sky unlimited.


140 posted on 02/05/2004 12:16:42 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
I don't 'get it' guys.. Why do you detest Jeff & set an elitist like Alex on a pedestal? They were both flawed men, as are we all.. --- But one upheld the principles of a constitution of liberty, while the other didn't much care for those basics.
Sorry, I think the Jeffersonian republic we began to lose around 1900 was a much better system than the one we find ourselves in now.
105 tpaine


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bvw wrote:

tpaine: I meant that your table -- that first one, was too summarified. And in that over-summarification represented your own forcing of a polarity upon the two men.


It was Jefferson who threw together a Navy and first projected our Naval power throughout the world and and Jefferson who somehow found a grant in the Constitution to buy the Louisania Territory.
This acts -- especially the details of the first Barbary War show Jefferson to be an immensely practical executive, well-grounded and adeptly footed at the same time.






I haven't "forced a polarity".

And frankly, the rest of your comments leave me wondering as to your point..
First you sort of agree with Jeff, then you switch to a defense of Alex on taxes, and end up with a bunch of unconnected quotes that prove what?

You too seem to think that convoluted sentences on arcane points make up valid argument & discourse..

All they really do is confuse the issues..
160 posted on 02/05/2004 12:57:06 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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