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To: Modernman
ModernPunk: "That's a strawman. Just because you have a certain right, doesn't mean that anyone or anything has to facilitate your enjoyment of that right."

Ah, but a right is a right. Strawman is a convenient tactic when you cannot retort effectively. Maybe you should ask your bartcop.com buddies for another kind of filibuster.

"You have the right to free speech, but that doesn't mean anyone has to listen to you."

But a right is defined as "something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature."

"Due" is defined as "Payable immediately or on demand."

Now do you see why YOU are the one with the flawed arguments?

"Rights have nothing to do with the interactions between private individuals. When we talk about a constitutional right, we're talking about something the government cannot take away from you. In this situation, just because you can't find someone to marry you doesn't mean the government has violated your rights."

Oh, that is hilarious, pony boy! You make it "can't find someone to marry you." No, little boy, I merely as of yetr met anyone who I think will be right for me. I could go for it and possibly be in a situation which is not beneficial. But I love how you construed my statement in order to insult me (however lame and hollow as it turns out).

You are just an angry, bitter little liberal man with snide comments which only buffet your fragile little immature ego.

No rights of gay people have been violated ever in matters of marriage. The law is uniform for all Americans who are not restricted judicially by incarceration: any man can marry any woman, and any woman can marry any man of a mandatory minimum age. Not "*some* men can marry *some* kind of women"...that is what Love vs. Virginia corrected.

Society as a whole can and has a right to measure how important civil and legal events are conducted and recorded. The majority of people do not want this at all; a backlash will be imminent and I will be proven right.


542 posted on 02/06/2004 5:45:29 PM PST by FUMETTI (No gay marriage!)
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To: FUMETTI
But a right is defined as "something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature."

"Due" is defined as "Payable immediately or on demand."

Now do you see why YOU are the one with the flawed arguments?

And, again, you are free to exercise your rights as you see fit. However, nobody is required to help you exercise your rights. Why are you having such a hard time with this concept?

You sound like those liberals who say that, since abortion is a "right," the government should have to pay for abortions.

551 posted on 02/07/2004 7:57:04 PM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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To: FUMETTI
You seem like a very angry man. I'm guessing life has been hard on you. I feel kind of sorry for you.
553 posted on 02/07/2004 7:58:08 PM PST by Modernman ("When you want to fool the world, tell the truth." -Otto von Bismarck)
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