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The Outsource of Confusion - When jobs go, we grow. [Pro-Outsourcing Article]
National Review ^ | 02/04/2004 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 02/04/2004 6:50:48 AM PST by ClintonBeGone

Outsourcing of information-technology services continues to be a hot topic — and a sore point for many IT professionals. As they stand in unemployment lines, they see their former jobs being shipped off to India, where they are now done by people making one-fifth as much. It has aroused much bitterness and led to legislative efforts to restrict outsourcing in the name of saving jobs for Americans.

I can't really offer any comfort to unemployed programmers, but the process of outsourcing is good for both the U.S. and world economies. Any jobs saved in the short-run by restrictions on outsourcing will come at the expense of better jobs in the future that will not be created.

The problem really arises because India, rather than, say, Canada or Germany, is the perceived threat. We don't generally worry about American jobs going to wealthy industrialized countries like Canada and Germany, because their workers are highly paid and cannot undercut us based on low labor costs. Because Indian workers are paid only a fraction of what a comparable American (or Canadian or German) makes, the competition is viewed as unfair.

But how did the U.S. and other wealthy countries get that way? It was by being the low-cost producer in some area. No doubt, the European farmers of the 18th century were bitter about being undercut by American farmers, whose cost of land was a fraction of that in Europe. They must have felt that this was as unfair as unemployed IT workers feel about India. But as time went by, costs equalized as capital and labor migrated to other countries and other industries. This is all part of the process of economic growth.

An article in the February issue of Wired makes this point well. It points out that Indians now doing jobs outsourced from America are seeing a rapid rise in their wages and standard of living. In the process, they are becoming more like Americans, which is translating into demand for American goods and lifestyles. The Indians also know that they can't compete only on price; the quality also has to be there, and they believe that they are delivering it.

Daniel Pink, the author of the article, goes on to make this important point: "Isn't the emergence of a vibrant middle class in an otherwise poor country a spectacular achievement, the very confirmation of the wonders of globalization — not to mention a new market for American goods and services? And if this transition pinches a little, aren't Americans being a tad hypocritical by whining about it? After all, where is it written that IT jobs somehow belong to Americans — and that any non-American who does such work is stealing a job from its rightful owner?"

Perhaps more starkly, Carly Fiorina, CEO of Hewlett Packard, recently said, "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore."

It's worth noting that the U.S. is not the only country where outsourcing is happening. British and Australian companies are also outsourcing to India, while European companies are outsourcing to the Czech Republic and other formerly communist countries, where wages are low but education levels are high.

It's also important to know that when countries outsource work to India or China, they are only doing so for very low-end operations that require little skill or training. The high-end work and wages stay here — work that might not be retained if it could not be augmented by outsourced functions in low-cost countries like China and India.

A Jan. 30 report in the Wall Street Journal illustrates how this works, using the case of a computer mouse manufacturer called Logitech. It sells a wireless mouse called Wanda for about $40 that is assembled in China. Of the $40, China gets only $3. The rest goes to suppliers, many based in America, which make components for the mouse, and to domestic retailers. The biggest component of Logitech's cost is its marketing department based in Fremont, California, where the staff of 450 Americans makes far more than the 4,000 Chinese who actually manufacture the product.

Those 450 Americans, making good wages in California, might not have jobs at all if Logitech wasn't able to stay competitive by outsourcing some of its costs. Studies have also shown that workers displaced by outsourcing are often retrained for better jobs within the companies doing the outsourcing. Cisco, for example, is a leader in outsourcing, but has not reduced the number of its domestic employees because they have been redeployed into other areas, doing higher value-added work. These jobs often pay better than those that were outsourced.

I know that this is no solace to those who have lost jobs due to outsourcing. But the nation as a whole will be worse off if outsourcing is restricted.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brucebartlett; india; outsoucing; trade
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To: stainlessbanner
I wonder what the author considers "low end" - rockets, circuits, computers, programming

Certainly, there are low end aspects to each. The unfortunate truth for many IT pros is that their profession has been commodified. Yes, we can go back and forth over quality of work issues, but the market will sort that out. But if a company can pay some Indian $4k/year to do what an American will only do for $50k, you'll see outsourcing.

I think sometimes we look at IT as the industry for employment that is the most essential (and cutting edge) as we move forward. But that may not be the case. As IT builds on itself, we may see a wholesale decrease in demand for actual breathing human beings in that industry.

Remember, information technology is responsible for massive job elimination because of the gains in efficiency and productivity it allows. Who's to say it won't actually do the same to itself?

21 posted on 02/04/2004 7:24:37 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: dfwgator
"That's where the article goes astray."

Not only that, but the author has his head conveniently and firmly up his backside. He needs to go talk to Sprint and find out about outsourcing technical expertise. I know, because it has already happened and is going to continue to happen.

22 posted on 02/04/2004 7:26:57 AM PST by el_texicano
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To: Mr. Bird
Looks like we're going to be a nation of salesmen and lawyers.
23 posted on 02/04/2004 7:27:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: A. Pole
Ping for another outsourcing article.
24 posted on 02/04/2004 7:28:38 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: el_texicano
Just out of curiosity, what is it that the Paleo-con-men actually want?

A law simply making it illegal to outsource technical or intellectual labor to another country?

Or just monumental taxes on doing so and having the same practical effect?

And if you do so, how do you justify not simply banning the import of all finished goods as well, or imposing such massive tarriffs (taxes, of course) on them that it has the same practical effect?
25 posted on 02/04/2004 7:30:46 AM PST by John H K
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To: neutrino
So you believe the wealth of America is largely based on keeping other nations impoverished?
26 posted on 02/04/2004 7:32:02 AM PST by John H K
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To: A. Pole
So how does he know the future so well?

I can't speak for the author, but most people who have a grasp on history can often predict with a degree of certainly, what will happen in the future.

27 posted on 02/04/2004 7:37:42 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: A. Pole
So how does he know the future so well?

I can't speak for the author, but most people who have a grasp on history can often predict with a degree of certainty, what will happen in the future.

28 posted on 02/04/2004 7:37:52 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Every outsourced, unemployed programmer, customer service rep, and/or factory worker is a vote against whatever administration is in power.

So its not what's right, its what's right for me. Sounds very liberal if you ask me.

29 posted on 02/04/2004 7:38:38 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: dfwgator
Looks like we're going to be a nation of salesmen and lawyers

No, it doesn't look like that at all. But some people seem to think that if we were just a nation of programmers and developers, that would be just peachie.

If programming becomes as easy as ditch digging, would we be smart to hold on to those jobs? We're already seeing IT products that laymen can use to do a job that just a few years ago required a few techies to handle.

It certainly is an emotional issue, and I understand the turmoil IT people are going through. But I don't think anyone should dismiss the very real possibility that such happenings are good for everyone in the long run.

30 posted on 02/04/2004 7:39:18 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
Remember, information technology is responsible for massive job elimination because of the gains in efficiency and productivity it allows. Who's to say it won't actually do the same to itself?

Very good point. How many offices now have a typing pool? Most everyone can now type and print their own memo. Damn IT guys. If they didn't hook up all those printers we'd still have typists.

31 posted on 02/04/2004 7:40:50 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: ClintonBeGone
The article flies in the face of what has made the USA prosperous for all these years. Work hard, educate yourself, get a good job, continue to work hard, get married, buy house have 2.5 kids.
I have a three year old girl and a boy on the way :-) what kind of jobs (besides service jobs) does the author think will be in the USA when my kids grow up.
I don't think I'll encourage them to follow my footsteps into Engineering.
32 posted on 02/04/2004 7:41:22 AM PST by Moleman
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To: ClintonBeGone
I would like to see the fortune telling license. Outsourcing is a fact of life that will not go away. Americans can refuse to do business with companies which outsource to third world, low-wage countries, but will have precious choices as consumers. Crunch time will come when US consumers don't have the collective retail and earning power to determine the shape and size or nature of products.
Market truths do not always make sound public policy, because there IS a higher moral value to US economic health than there is to Chinese or Indian.
33 posted on 02/04/2004 7:41:37 AM PST by steve8714
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To: John H K
Well, taxation or tariffs are to me not the answer. I'm not sure what the answer is at the moment.

From what I've read on the 'outsourcing' issue, the savings are very short term to the corporations and eventually comes back to bite them in the butt. I know because I joined this company at the time its previous 'outsourcing' blew up in their face and we had to scramble to fix the problem.

I personally fault the shortsightedness of the corporate "leaders" who've allowed this state of affairs to happen.

No, those of us who are affected will find other jobs, develop other skills and get on with our lives. It's just a shame that a good corporation can be so pathetically lead or rather mislead.

Then there's the ulterior motive that many believe is behind this, at least in the case of some companies. A CEO is hired for the express purpose of trimming the "fat" so it can be merged, sold, or otherwise taken over by other corporations and thus the 'stockholders' reap the profits. And it doesn't take much to figure out who the 'stockholders' are in this case.

34 posted on 02/04/2004 7:46:08 AM PST by el_texicano
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To: ClintonBeGone
"In the process, they are becoming more like Americans, which is translating into demand for American goods and lifestyles."

Great. Maybe this pent-up demand for American goods will lead to the reopening of all those shuttered factories.

35 posted on 02/04/2004 7:47:35 AM PST by Middle Man
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To: ClintonBeGone
But seriously, what high paying jobs will be left that are not going to require a lot of entrepreneurial sense (and not many in the general population have that)? Most non-strategy-making jobs can eventually be automated, and those that can't will be sent offshore. I agree for those who are good business people there will be a wealth of oppotunities, but as I stated, most people in this country will not be qualified (especially with our crappy education system).

36 posted on 02/04/2004 7:47:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Middle Man
which is translating into demand for American goods

Forget it, India is as protectionist as can be.

37 posted on 02/04/2004 7:48:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Moleman
I have a three year old girl and a boy on the way :-) what kind of jobs (besides service jobs) does the author think will be in the USA when my kids grow up.

Why don't you just allow them to discover what it is they like. They'll learn early on whether its also something that will earn them a living.

38 posted on 02/04/2004 7:48:41 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: steve8714
Crunch time will come when US consumers don't have the collective retail and earning power to determine the shape and size or nature of products.

We're actually fortunate that you don't currently possess that power. You would destroy this country for your own personal gains.

39 posted on 02/04/2004 7:49:41 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: dfwgator
But seriously, what high paying jobs will be left that are not going to require a lot of entrepreneurial sense (and not many in the general population have that)? Most non-strategy-making jobs can eventually be automated, and those that can't will be sent offshore. I agree for those who are good business people there will be a wealth of oppotunities, but as I stated, most people in this country will not be qualified (especially with our crappy education system).

Good God folks, how many times in the past 200 years have these words been spoken over a dinner table. Stop being so arrogant in thinking you're the first generation that's actually had to deal with the economy in a personal way. Its just silly.

40 posted on 02/04/2004 7:51:46 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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