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Two Enterprise F-14s Return Safely After Colliding
Navy Newsstand ^
| 2/3/2004 9:22:00 AM
| U.S. 5th Fleet Public Affairs
Posted on 02/03/2004 12:22:31 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
MANAMA, Bahrain (NNS) -- Two F-14A Tomcats operating from USS Enterprise (CVN 65) in the Red Sea collided with each other while conducting basic daytime fighter maneuvers Feb. 2.
No one was injured during the incident, and both aircraft landed safely aboard Enterprise.
One F-14 sustained minor damage to its right wingtip, and the others right vertical stabilizer had nearly been sheared off. The Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 1 F-14s are Checkmates from Fighter Squadron (VF) 211, home-based at Naval Air Station Oceana, Va.
The incident is under investigation, and Enterprise is still able to continue its present mission.
The Enterprise Carrier Strike Group is currently deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of responsibility in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom.
For related news, visit the Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/Commander, 5th Fleet Navy NewsStand page at www.news.navy.mil/local/cusnc.
040125-N-1928O-087 Persian Gulf (Jan. 25, 2004) An F-14 Tomcat assigned to the Checkmates of Fighter Squadron Two One One (VF-211) prepares to land on the flight deck aboard USS Enterprise (CVN 65). Enterprise and Carrier Air Wing One (CVW-1) are in the Arabian Gulf on a regularly scheduled deployment, conducting missions in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the continued war on terrorism. U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 2nd Class Mark O'Donald. (RELEASED)
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: collision; f14; midair; oceananas; tomcat; ussenterprise
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Scary, I'm glad they're OK.
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; Ragtime Cowgirl
Wow!
Can't the F-14 fly with only one wing?
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:24:13 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Sorry, that was the F-15.
One-winged landing
In the summer of 1983, an Israeli F-15 staged a mock dogfight with Skyhawks for training purposes, near Nahal Tzin in the Negev desert. During the exercise, one of the Skyhawks miscalculated and collided forcefully with the F-15's wing root. The F-15's pilot was aware that the wing had been seriously damaged, but decided to try and land in a nearby airbase. It was only after he had landed, when he climbed out of the cockpit and looked backward, that the pilot realized what had happened: the wing had been completely torn off the plane, and he had landed the plane with only one wing attached.
A few months later, the damaged F-15 had been given a new wing, and returned to operational duty in the squadron. The engineers at McDonnell Douglas had a hard time believing the story of the one-winged landing: as far as their planning models were concerned, this was an impossibility.
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:28:32 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:33:57 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Any Navy vets care to comment on the frequency/infrequency of such accidents?
I remember the Army would lose people on occasion in the field to all sorts of accidents. Not often, but it happened. Never made the news though.
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:37:33 PM PST
by
Gefreiter
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"OK - We're gonna go left, right?"
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Uhhh... A little close there, guys, huh?
(steely)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Well, if these things don't have turn signals, I would be glad to manufacture some to milspec and sell them to the Navy for a mere $24,832.87 each.
To: Gefreiter
Note to McDonald-Douglas....
RE:F15/Please add Right wing to Minimum Equipment List
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posted on
02/03/2004 12:56:55 PM PST
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
To: Robe
Perfect!
The part request for a US jet would read:
Assembly. Wing. F-15A/B/C/D/E. Quantity: Each. Amount: 1
Nothing Follows
Ya gotta love the DoD log system.
Hey do you suppose the pilot had to fill out a statement of charges on the wing he lost?
To: OXENinFLA; Poohbah; section9; veronica
McDonnell-Douglas didn't believe it... until the photos arrived.
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posted on
02/03/2004 1:28:24 PM PST
by
hchutch
("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
To: Gefreiter
Any Navy vets care to comment on the frequency/infrequency of such accidents? It happens too frequently. Way more often than the public ever hears about. Pilots lose SA, which is hard in a Tomcat where you have two sets of eyes, but it still happens. Sometimes, it happens because a couple of hot-shots want to take pictures of each other and get too close. A couple guys lost their wings that way after knocking a Phoenix missile off one of their jets.
Most of the time, you wont hear a thing.
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posted on
02/03/2004 1:28:31 PM PST
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: Gefreiter
I gotta admit I stole the MEL comment.. That was attributed to a incident involving a B-707 Departing JFK , when the out board engine developed a complete compressor failure, departed from the Aircraft taking with it the right wing from the nacelle outboard.
Returning successfully the PIC made that request to Boeing in the resulting write up
IE: Please add right wing to MEL
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posted on
02/03/2004 1:31:15 PM PST
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
To: Pukin Dog
ping
14
posted on
02/03/2004 1:32:19 PM PST
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Come see the violence inherent in the system!)
To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; OXENinFLA; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; ...
MANAMA, Bahrain (NNS) -- Two F-14A Tomcats operating from USS Enterprise (CVN 65) in the Red Sea collided with each other while conducting basic daytime fighter maneuvers Feb. 2.
No one was injured during the incident, and both aircraft landed safely aboard Enterprise.
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
One F-14 sustained minor damage to its right wingtip, and the others right vertical stabilizer had nearly been sheared off. Hmmm, right wingtip of one aircraft, and right vertical stabilizer on the other aircraft. Either they were going head to head, or one of them was trying to reproduce that scene from "Top Gun."
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posted on
02/03/2004 2:15:57 PM PST
by
Yo-Yo
To: Robe
Note to McDonald-Douglas.... RE:F15/Please add Right wing to Minimum Equipment List LOL!
I should let y'all know that I've seen tape of this plane landing.
The History Channel did a special on the F-15 and the story of this plane was in it. They had the Pilot and film from the cockpit before, during and after the crash.
To: Yo-Yo
Either they were going head to head, or one of them was trying to reproduce that scene from "Top Gun." Doubtful.
More likely, they were on their way to Marshall in a Right Eschelon formation, (Lead left and out front, Wing tucked in right and low).
If Lead decelerates and Wing doesn't catch it, Wing cannot break right, as his left wing would come up into Lead, and they would both likely be dead now.
So, Wing pushes LEFT and low, to go under Lead, and probably caught the starboard tail on Lead's starboard wing tip. It would take a lateral impact to knock off the Vertical stab, so this is probably how it happened.
Fault goes to Lead, if he did not call boards before slowing, or fault goes to Wing, if Lead called it, and he missed it.
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posted on
02/03/2004 3:05:08 PM PST
by
Pukin Dog
(Sans Reproache)
To: Pukin Dog
Is there anyway you can put this post into English so I can understand it? I lost you somewhere between Lead and Wing.
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posted on
02/03/2004 3:37:52 PM PST
by
TruthNtegrity
(I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Best fighting force on the face of the earth ~ Bump!
~~ Go Navy! ~~
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posted on
02/03/2004 3:42:50 PM PST
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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