[js1138]

Only one problem. The Bible never said that and therefore wasn't wrong. That was the Roman Catholic priesthood that in their arrogance didn't check to make sure that what they were teaching matched the scriptures.

Only problem with your position is that you can't determine what the Bible really means until you have an outside verification of the facts. No one saw any problem with an earth centered cosmology until an alternative became indisputable.

In another eyeblink (200 years or so) evolution will have the same factual support as Copernican cosmology, and the scriptures will be interpreted accordingly.

[old-ager]

> Only problem with your position is that you can't determine what the Bible really means until you have an outside verification of the facts. No one saw any problem with an earth centered cosmology until an alternative became indisputable.

There's some room for agreement here. But I would maintain that the nature of these two issues (evolution and the very nature of what a human is, versus what mathematical framework is utilized to describe planetary motion) is different. I can't argue this further right now, but it's not something you should reject out of hand.

> In another eyeblink (200 years or so) evolution will have the same factual support as Copernican cosmology, and the scriptures will be interpreted accordingly.

Or not. Guess we have to wait and see. I do think that Christian believers often come up with the wrong scientific interpretation of Scripture, but I also think that the "proofs" that Scripture is wrong tend to be debunked as history flows on and more discoveries are made.

[DannyTN]

"Only problem with your position is that you can't determine what the Bible really means until you have an outside verification of the facts. No one saw any problem with an earth centered cosmology until an alternative became indisputable."

I disagree. The main importance of those passages were to state that God was responsible for the sunrise and sunset. It was God who made night and day. It was God who made the earth and put it in it's place. It was not intended to describe how he did it.

I actually agree with PatrickHenry here, that the same thing can be said of creation. It says God created us, it doesn't say how. Thus evolution is not specifically precluded, but It's doubtful for the reasons in my most recent post.

This doesn't preclude us from examining His creation to see what we can learn. However when we adopt positions that contradict what He has told us, based on limited analysis and understanding we are very subject to being wrong and subsequently proved worng by further analysis and further evidence.

This is what evolutionists object to, further anlaysis and further evidence. Anything that doesn't support their storyline is automatically rejected instead of evaluated on the merits of the science. That bias doesn't belong in science.