Bush Unveils Plan to Restrain Spending

Talon News / GOP USA ^ | Feb. 2, 2004 | Jeff Gannon

[prairiebreeze]

Or hard-nosed to the point of absurdity. Where there is no compromise there is no progress. What you quoted sounds like the cutting of noses to spite faces and not a quality I want to see in my elected officials anymore than thoughtless, reckless, unfettered spending.

Prairie

[Swanks]

Horse-n-pony show. They did some polling and the base is pi**ed. But they also think the base is stupid. Just have to fool 'em with a few press releases and some imaginary cuts.

What's a Gov't spending cut these days; 5-7% increase?

[kayak]

Thank you for that wonderful post ..... it seems too simple to some people but many of us really do appreciate this great country .... and the military who have fought and died to defend it through the generations. God bless you!

[windchime]

Bump to that!

[prairiebreeze]

The good news for you is that you are free to leave America. Go live someplace else, be happy elsewhere. Not all can claim that freedom but you certainly can.

Go for it, if you are so unhappy or disillusioned here.

Prairie

[Mulder]

The good news for you is that you are free to leave America

Yeah, but they'll take that away in a few years.

Go for it, if you are so unhappy or disillusioned here.

I'm not leaving, nor do I have any desire too. The 'domestic enemies of the Constitution' are the ones that need to leave.

[prairiebreeze]

Yeah, but they'll take that away in a few years.

Nonsense.

The 'domestic enemies of the Constitution' are the ones that need to leave.

That I'd probably agree with. I'm just pointing out the you DO have options available to you that many in the world don't.

Prairie

[kayak]

The 'domestic enemies of the Constitution' are the ones that need to leave.

Ah, but they have the freedom to stay here, unlike in some countries where they would be exiled (or worse).

[Mulder]

Thanks for posting that table.

One conclusion that I draw from it is that Bush is as big a spender as his predacessors. And unlike Reagan, he has a Republican Congress. And unlike Reagan, he is spending signifantly less on defense, and more on other programs.

Another conclusion is the massive growth in entitlement programs, which Bush has expanded. Most recently with his prescription drugs plan. To his credit, he has proposed some privatization of social security, but I really have to question how hard he is pushing for this.

Also, I expect the "FY 04" numbers to only get bigger since they are only proposals at this point.

[Mulder]

Nonsense.

They are making it harder to leave the country. At least if you want to take your assets with you.

Clinton tried to enact edicts making it much more difficult to exit the country with your assets.

And Bush enacted one where you can take your money out of the country, but if you don't fill out the proper "permission forms", that in and of itself is considered a crime and you automatically forfeit the money.

[Mulder]

Ah, but they have the freedom to stay here, unlike in some countries where they would be exiled (or worse).

And that's a good thing?

I happen to believe that those who are actively and illegally engaged in overthrowing the Constitution and Bill of Rights should be exiled or worse.

[kayak]

It's a good thing if one truly believes in freedom .... and not just freedom for those who agree with them.

When the President went to Great Britain, the media covered all the protests (while ignoring the thousands of people who lined the streets in support of Bush and Blair). At one press conference, one of the tacky journalists asked the President about all the protestors. Bush's response was that they were fortunate to live in a free country where dissent was allowed .... and that now the people of Iraq have that freedom also.

Yes, there are a lot of citizens in this country whom I would love to see put on a slow boat to China. But they have as much right to be here as I do ... and to speak their piece, no matter how distasteful their views might be to me.

[Mulder]

But they have as much right to be here as I do ... and to speak their piece, no matter how distasteful their views might be to me.

There is a big difference between "speaking your piece" and engaging in a criminal conspiracy to overthrow the United States Constitution.

The former is harmless, while the latter is an overt act of treason against all Americans.

Now if people want to exercise their Right to Free speech to modify the Constitution through the lawfully proscribed process, then that is certianly their Right.

But if the want to attempt to subvert the Constitution through means other than a Constitutional amendment, AND act to do so, then they have crossed the line between Free speech and sedition.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

How do you argue then the biggest growth in 25 years? The lowest interest rates in what 45 years now?

You do realize that we were ALREADY in a recession *before* President Bush took office?