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To: jmstein7
While I think Soros is a lunatic and would have no problem writing letters about him, it seems to me we on the right have to be careful we don't fall into the Liberal trap of trying to stop free speech when we don't like it. Soros can spend his money any way he wants. If it means spending every last dime trying to defeat George Bush it is his right. I seriously doubt 7 billion could disrupt the economy to any extent which would be noticeable. THe government wastes that much every week. Furthermore, as with most very rich people most of his assets aren't liquid, therefore just the process of liquidating his holdings into cash would be quite apparent to everyone and would make news. What the Republicans should do is form this argument around rich versus poor. The Republicans get most of their campaign money from small donors. Between very rich Kerry, Soros, and Unions we should be able to pin the "big money" label on them. If we pound hard enough every dime Soros spends will actually cost them votes.

This is a perfect example why the only election reform that is needed is full and detailed disclosure of the source of every dime a candidate gets is posted on the internet. If Soros actually spends as much as he threatens to, it will backfire.
8 posted on 02/01/2004 12:43:17 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Casloy
Welcome to Free Republic, 1/24.

This letter writing campaign is not a restriction on speech -- it is fighting speech with more speech; trust me -- I'm a published law student (2L) will a specialty in 1st Amendment Law (my law review note is on the subject).

This is the first amendment at work -- fighting speech you don't like with more speech.
11 posted on 02/01/2004 12:49:22 PM PST by jmstein7
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To: Casloy
Can we now thank john mccain for that treachery in the campaign finance reform, where's our freedom of speech? why can soros spend that money before and election and we can't respond to it, where has our liberty gone?
20 posted on 02/01/2004 1:48:52 PM PST by Robert Warren Linville
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To: Casloy
I seriously doubt 7 billion could disrupt the economy to any extent which would be noticeable.

This shows that you know nothing about Soros.

He is an incredible manipulator of currency and can cause governments to fall. I don't know if he's got enough money to hurt America but his ability to bet against the Pound for example, cost Brits millions. One could ask them what they think of Soros. I'll make it easy for you. They hate him.

Or how about the Kazakastans? He promised them help with getting their infrastructure going and then decided he didn't want to do it. He let them falter and then fall on their collective noses. I'd be willing to bet a hundred large that he took the downside in stride because he had a bet riding on it.

Since his favorite game is currency manipulation, do not bet against him having as much liquidity as it takes to do whatever he is thinking about doing.

He also has men who used to work with him who if they decided to "work" with him, can put their millions to work in the same direction as Soros. One of these that comes quickly to mind is Jimmy Rogers. He used to work for Soros, but quit to go out on his own (after making millions) since he decided he could do it better and didn't want to make money for other people anymore; he simply wanted to make more money for himself. He is proof that someone can never have enough money. You'd think with his millions, he could relax, take up a hobby, do some volunteer work, but he is in fact addicted to "working it" - making more money in foreign stock exchanges, commodities or anything he decides is a way to make MORE money.

That's just one who might help Soros. There are others.

In the aggregate, their qabillions would be a formidable challenge to any market, any commodity that they decided to effect. I don't know what the "plan" is, but I've learned that Soros can rig the game in his favor, and that is a contrary bet you don't want to take.

24 posted on 02/01/2004 4:14:21 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: Casloy
While I think Soros is a lunatic and would have no problem writing letters about him, it seems to me we on the right have to be careful we don't fall into the Liberal trap of trying to stop free speech when we don't like it.

Stopping free speech?

Oh, give me a break.

We have as much right to talk about stopping Soros as he does to keep publicizing his intention of bringing down the President.

In fact, due to this wanting to unseat a sitting President and the fact that he may try something tricky before the election, I say we have more right than he does!

Okay, maybe not. But we certainly have an equal right to his.

Free speech is free speech, whether it's his or mine or yours.

25 posted on 02/01/2004 4:24:45 PM PST by TruthNtegrity (I refuse to call candidates for President "Democratic" as they are NOT. They are Democrats.)
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To: Casloy
Agree with you. Personally looking forward to see a fool separated from his money.
32 posted on 02/01/2004 5:15:37 PM PST by olliemb
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To: Casloy
Well .. I agree with part of what you say, but I have a personal example which might change your mind.

Remember the "imminent threat" that was constantly used by the dims against Bush ..?? Well .. I knew Bush didn't say that, and I knew the exact portion of the speech where the words appeared. So .. I began an email campaign to get this "imminent threat" debunked.

After several weeks of sending email and not having any success, I finally sent an email to every Fox email address they had .. the very same message to all. That weekend, Tony Snow had John Rockerfeller on his show. When Tony asked John about the "imminent threat", John said that yes, that was what the President said.

Well .. up on the screen comes the SOUS and the actual statement the President made: "some have said that we should not act until the threat is imminent". John looked like a deer caught in the headlights .. then Tony hit John with his own words. Up on the screen was John's statement using the words "imminent threat". It wasn't the President who said it, it was John Rockerfeller who said it.

Guess what .. almost immediately that slam against the President was dead! Why! Because I hounded the media until they had to look into it. And .. I must say Tony did an outstanding job for which I thanked him. And .. I'm very confident I was not the only person writing about this issue.

However, having worked in radio, I can tell you that for every letter or email a media outlet receives, that one letter demographically represents hundreds or thousands or hundreds of thousands. For us to write these letter to the listed media outlets .. it will cause those outlets to investigate and perhaps put out some warning signals to Soros that we know what he's is up to and he better not try it. At the very least, it will put the info out there and if Soros should try anything, Bush will not be forced to take the blame.
36 posted on 02/01/2004 6:50:12 PM PST by CyberAnt ("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
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To: Casloy
George Soros is the muscle behind Move On.org
Who is George Soros?
Occupation: International currency speculator
Net worth: $11,000,000,000 ( Billion )
(Some put it at 7 billion)

Mr. Soros has contributed over $5 million dollars to Move On. org

Brief background:
Convicted of insider trading in 2002. In 1992, he broke the English Pound. In 1997, he destroyed the Asian Markets by wrecking Thailand and Malaysia’s currencies.


1947 Leaves Hungary for Britain to attend London School of Economics.

1956 Moves to United States.

1969 Establishes Quantum Fund, and dabbles in currency manipulation. Average return of that fund is an astonishing 35% per year, since its inception.

1979 Establishes Open Society Fund, New York City.

16 Sep 1992 In a brazen act of currency speculation, places a hedge bet that the UK will devalue the Pound Sterling. In September this nets him $1B in a single day.

1995 Appointed director, Council on Foreign Relations.

1997 Attacks the currencies of Thailand and Malaysia. A Thai source said: "We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks blood from the people." [Heather Coffin, Covert Action Quarterly.]

2002 Convicted of insider trading, with regards to the stock of a French bank in 1988. Fined $2M.

Nov 2002 Soros is the primary sponsor of Nevada's ballot initiative to legalize marijuana.

12 Sep 2003 "If you impose morality on [business], it means that you are actually with your hands tied behind your back and you're not going to be successful. It's extremely hard to be successful." Interview, David Brancaccio, Now with Bill Moyers.

7 Nov 2003 Moscow offices of the Soros Foundation stormed by forty armed men who seize papers and seal the building, after Soros criticized the recent jailing of one of Russia's oligarchs, Mikhail Khodorkovsky of oil company Yukos. The building's owner claims rent was not being paid, an unlikely explanation.

Soros quote: "America under Bush, is a danger to the world. And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is," he declared in announcing that he would spend more than $15 million of his personal wealth to defeat the president.”

“Having amassed a multi-billion dollar financial empire in true capitalist style (i.e. international currency speculation), Mr. Soros now contends that "capitalism and the spread of market values" is the No. 1 threat to "open and democratic society."

Now that he's a billionaire, he says: "I consider the threat from the laissez-faire side more potent today than the threat from totalitarian ideologies."
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“When it comes to military intervention, Mr. Soros has been far from consistent. He praises Bill Clinton's decision to use military force to topple the regime of Slobodan Milosevic despite the absence of United Nations backing.
But when it comes to the Bush presidency, he declares himself profoundly opposed to the Bush administration's policies, not only in Iraq but altogether.”

“While Mr. Soros seeks to portray himself as a mainstream philanthropist who cares deeply about people, the record reveals him as an arch-typical limousine liberal who lives according to standards far different than those he seeks to impose on others.

But nowhere is Mr. Soros' hypocrisy more transparent than his recent double take on campaign finance reform. Beginning in the mid-1990s and continuing through the enactment of the so-called Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, Mr. Soros was one of the leading proponents of the campaign finance reform.

Now, however, Mr. Soros has apparently had a change of heart. Having succeeded in restricting the fund raising and spending activities of political candidates and political parties, Mr. Soros has found a way to skirt the very laws he helped enact in order to advance his personal political agenda. He has committed up to $5 million to MoveOn.org, an organization that airs ads and organizes rallies denouncing the president's policies at home and abroad.

To date, Mr. Soros says he has spent upwards of $15.5 million to oust Mr. Bush, and he's prepared to spend even more.

Of course, there's no outcry from the liberal establishment and media elites that worked so hard to impose the reforms that Mr. Soros once supported. To these so-called reformers, Mr. Soros' goal of defeating Mr. Bush is paramount to standing on principle.

In George Soros' world, the ends always seem to justify the means. His blind hatred of Mr. Bush motivates him and the groups he supports.

By David N. Bossie

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55 posted on 02/02/2004 6:10:17 PM PST by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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