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CA: Paving a new schools path
Sac Bee ^ | 2/1/04 | Deb Kollars

Posted on 02/01/2004 10:54:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:05:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

One hundred days is not much time to streamline a massive and entrenched public school system. But that was the bold promise of Arnold Schwarzenegger when he became California's new governor last November.

Schwarzenegger still has a long way to go, but after two months on the job, he has taken some notable steps.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; newschools; path; paving; qec; roadkill; teachersunion; textbooks
And over the next few weeks, he is expected to make seven appointments -- creating his own hand-picked majority (probably all democRats)-- to a new 13-person panel called the Quality Education Commission, "whose job is to help reshape school financing" (figure out new ways to fleece the sheople).


Another commission? Who'da thunk of that?

I thought the idea was to simplify, streamline and shrink government. (That's what MY commission told me.)

1 posted on 02/01/2004 10:54:41 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002
Amazing how some folks make easy things really, really hard so they can look like heroes even tho' they really botched things up and make them worse and then have the cajolies to run to get re-elected to fix the me$$es they made.
2 posted on 02/01/2004 10:56:25 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: NormsRevenge
You want to streamline. Home school your children or pay for them to be tutored.

Simplify, man, Simplify!
3 posted on 02/01/2004 11:27:05 AM PST by RunningJoke
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To: NormsRevenge
Controlling illegal immigration, a common theme to most of California's current financial problems, is also THE major solution is curbing the steeply rising costs of public education in California.

Today about 33% of public school pupils are a direct consequence of illegal immigration over the past 50 years. That number will rise to almost 50% by 2025 if the current rates of immigration and immigrant reproduction (2 times the state average) continue. While it is not possible to deny an education to these now citizens (anchor babies and their successive generations) it is imperative that the process stop the geometric acceleration by regulating these immigrants.

Will the Quality Education Commission mention this obvious solution in their report. Absolutely not. The subject is absolutely taboo since it is in neither political parties best interest to do so. So who will do it. You should. Direct your written suggestions to the commission as soon as it publicly solicits remarks.

With enough public outrage the commission may possibly mention this factor, in passing, in their recommendations. Anything to place to issue into the public debate.

4 posted on 02/01/2004 11:35:44 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
CA schools are becoming crowded with immigrants or offspring of immigrants. I believe this number is already greater than the 33% you mention. Without regard to costs, a a large portion of these children don't perform well in school, regardless the amount of money spent. The net result is that they bias down school performance statistics and politicians hoop and holler that the schools are failing and need more money. The real problem is that these kids are the future of CA.
5 posted on 02/01/2004 11:44:49 AM PST by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: umgud
The real problem is that these kids are the future of CA.

There is no way that I can prevent California's population from being majority Hispanic in my lifetime. But I can work to preserve our current standard of living and political precepts.

If I fail then California will become a powerful lever to convert the balance of the US Southwest to an area of strong, Mexican cultural and political influence. This would destroy the standard of living we currently enjoy and corrupt our political system with the increased influence of the wealthy oligarchy that Mexico now suffers.

Don't misunderstand me. I am not opposed to annexing the balance of southern North American into the United States but that annexation should be done from a position of political, economic and military power. We dictate the terms, they don't.

Stopping the present bubble of immigrants from Mexico is imperative to allow their assimilation and thereby preserve our sovereignty and living standards.

6 posted on 02/01/2004 12:06:00 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: umgud
I don't have a lot of hope for the future of CA.

Neither do I.

I'm too old to leave but I have strongly suggested to both my children that they get the hell out while I fight a rear guard action.

If these two young men follow my suggestion they will drive another nail in California's economic coffin since they are among the 15% that pay 75% of California's personal income taxes. So be it.

If I'm forced to surrender California to Fox's ilk, then let it resemble the aftermath of Sherman's March to the Sea. Screwum!

7 posted on 02/01/2004 12:58:07 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; ambrose; farmfriend; Roscoe; ElkGroveDan; dalereed; tubebender; ...
So now we have the Riordan/Wilson/Schwarzenegger commission screwing around with the schools that are outta commission because we won't put government schools on commission!!!

Judas H. Priest!!! I perform well on commission because I wake up every damn morning unemployed until I find my first client to coach in the great American pursuit of happiness!!! I don't have a PERS/teachers defined benefit pension to look forward to, or retirement health benefits funded by my fellow tax drained Californians.

But I have to help people by re-educating them to what they never learned in government schools on how to aspire/achieve financial independence!!!

Shockingly, so many don't even have a clue as to the laws/mechanics of money/finance/savings/investment on the most elementary levels!!!

Hardly ANY of them understand a dang thing about how our multi-level governments function or even how much of their compensation has been spirited away from each paycheck to support the most corrupt, wasteful system that has grown out of being taught that this is actually a democrazy that they should treat as a BLIND TRUST!!!

I'm stunned a shocked that so many on FR have even thrown up their hands and sucked into the Hollywood celebrity hype of believing a rank novice that couldn't even keep a resturant chain out of bankruptcy (Planet Hollywood) can restore sanity to a State already saturated with BLIND TRUST from the last voter installed/uninstalled administration!!!

The San Diego/Lost Angeles/Hollywood crowd is outta their gourd trying to make people think that Republicans can rescue the monumental mess Democrats have made, without really doing anything disturbing like cutting spending back to 1999 levels. It's compound insanity and it's not going to get better until it gets a whole lot worse.

The worst part is that it'll have a Repellican label on what's going to get worse!!!

8 posted on 02/01/2004 1:26:24 PM PST by SierraWasp ("A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart is at his left." Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SierraWasp
Well, why the heck didn't you just run for governator yourself? Then we'd have no problems at all. Have no idea what you'd do with your time after the first day though. I mean, how long does it take to fire everyone in the bureaucracy?
9 posted on 02/01/2004 1:37:50 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Amerigomag
I'm too old to leave but I have strongly suggested to both my children that they get the hell out while I fight a rear guard action.

I hate to break the news to you, but this epic invasion of millions of illegals has gone nationwide in a big way. From Idaho, to North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Colorado, Indiana, Utah, etc.

This titanic invasion long ago left the borders of Texas, Cal and Arizona. It's coast to coast my friend. You can't out run it, as millions more continue to pour into our country, unabated.

Be sure to give thanks to those responsible, namely the Federal Government of the United States.

10 posted on 02/01/2004 1:46:19 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Jim Robinson
I mean, how long does it take to fire everyone in the bureaucracy?
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger filled the seven empty chairs at the state Board of Education on Thursday, culling a bipartisan bunch representing a wide range of education expertise.

Four Democrats, two Republicans and a "decline to state" will fill out the 11-member board...

San Mateo County Times, Sunday, February 01, 2004

http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11268~1929132,00.html

11 posted on 02/01/2004 3:13:53 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: NormsRevenge
Here is that relatively unheralded thread where he cuts a deal with the teachers' union, thus precluding both substantive reform and effective spending cuts: Schwarzenegger Caves on Spending Limit.

Maybe this time the droids will have something to say about it.

12 posted on 02/01/2004 3:29:29 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Jim Robinson
You got me! How long will it take Arnold to "blow up the boxes?" Why the heck didn't you run for governator? I already did my little thing as an elected official for what good it did. The field of candidates was overcrowded with porn queens and movie stars, etc., etc.,

The so-called conservatives in my region just went back to work and play and left it all up to me, figuring I could solve all the problems without any further need for them to show up anymore. I did see quite a few of them at meetings agitating for taxpayer money to be spent on some awfully questionable liberal feel good waste and it was embarrassing!!!

I'm quite unhappy these days with what I see from even so-called "fiscal conservatives, but social liberals," or "compassionate conservatives," etc., etc. I will not stand for them representing me through a Party that just pees all over it's platform for the fun of it. That's humiliating!!!

At least when I took my oath of office, it meant a lot to me to be honored by voters that knew of my character and who knew I wasn't into government by whim, but rather government by constitutionally guraranteed freedoms that demanded citizen responsibilities!!!

Now we have elected "leaders" to represent us with a working compass only part time and the other part of the time they sell out the sanctity of citizenship and it's responsibility, entirely. They just ignore the rule of law for the politics of expediency and it's not a good example, or good leadership!!!

They are supposed to be addressed as "your honor," or "the honorable" but they only have part-time honor and I don't have to run for their job if it makes me unhappy... I have a right to bich my head off, however. I have a right to speak my mind and they and you and everyone else has a right not to listen, right?

13 posted on 02/01/2004 8:33:16 PM PST by SierraWasp ("A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart is at his left." Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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