The Corruption of Conservatism (July 10, 2003)

Colorado Freedom Report ^ | July 10, 2003 | Ron Paul

[B4Ranch]

I actually enjoy being ridiculed by some of these folks. It convinces me where their intelligence levels truly are.

[B4Ranch]

Not with me you couldn't and I'm half crippled. Ever been whacked in the nuts with a cane? Folks tend to lose color real fast.

[B4Ranch]

It's passing the bill to our kids. No true parent does that and certainly leaders shouldn't either. Of course leaders are as scarce as hen's teeth in D.C.

[Missouri]

Ever been whacked in the nuts with a cane?

What a low blow that would be.

[B4Ranch]

You won't want to walk with a broken pelvic bone that's for sure. Punching, forget it. Even falling over hurts so bad you wish you were a statue.

[gcruse]

It's not just DC.  Look at this.

[cyncooper]

We flew the Prince somebody out of America that morning. Should have kept him.

Cite, please.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Posters referring to conservatives as "neocons." Posters referring to supporters of a sitting Republican President as mindless "bushbots." Posters openly advocating voting for other party candidates, with the inevitable end result of guaranteeing a Democratic Party victory in '04.

Welcome to the MoveOn.org message board.

[KDD]

I have been posting here for a long time.

This post is the kind of post that used to be prevalent here. Clinton was not pilloried here because he was a democrat but because he was an enemy of conservatism.

This is not Republican Party.com.

You would censor posters such as I?

Yours is the face of the "new" GOP.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

I have been posting here for a long time.

So have many others. You get no special awards for this.

You would censor posters such as I?

Who said anything about "censoring" you? Not I. Look up the term "drama queen," and get back to me.

Yours is the face of the "new" GOP.

Mine is the face of the old GOP: of Ronald Reagan's Eleventh Commandment, "Speak no ill of any fellow Republican."

G-d alone knows what sort of "conservative" blithely ignores that simple precept. Hint, hint.

[gcruse]

 Posters openly advocating voting for other party candidates...

Has this ceased to be a conservative board? Is it a forum for the Republican party now?

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Has this ceased to be a conservative board? Is it a forum for the Republican party now?

Nice attempt to alter the meaning of a clearly written sentence, by chopping its tail off. Try it again, in whole, please:

"Posters openly advocating voting for other party candidates, with the inevitable end result of guaranteeing a Democratic Party victory in '04."

Question: what sort of "conservative" aids and abets the victory of a hardcore liberal Democrat in any Presidential election?

[KDD]

My point was that I've been here long enough to know the posting guidelines.

Speak no ill of any fellow Republican

Who said anything about "censoring" you?

The censorship is implied in your statement..and by equating criticism of Bush to liberal thought as expressed by moveon.com or such.

And this?...
Mine is the face of the old GOP: of Ronald Reagan's Eleventh Commandment, "Speak no ill of any fellow Republican."

I have voted for every Republican since Nixon's first run. How many primaries is that? I've seen every Republican, including Reagan, trash members of their own party.

Now, what do you say about the article and Ron Paul's words?
That the truth may hurt Bush's reelection chances...?

[Veracious Poet]

The loss of our Republic is the result of generations of elite machiavellian politics, coupled with a total, deliberate degeneration of the quality of American citizenship through uncontrolled immigration and dumbed-down public education.

Most of our populace has been and are willing to throw away their children's rights for a "chicken in every pot" and the illusion of safety...

[Veracious Poet]

"The dirty tactics called for to win this war are the stock and trade of the CIA."

You mean the same people that created Osama Bin Ladin and his ilk to begin with?

Personally IMHO, we didn't learn one thing about the REAL reason 9-11 occurred and are being led to a bigger threat by the same "people".

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

My point was that I've been here long enough to know the posting guidelines.

As have I. Again: you get no cookie for that.

The censorship is implied in your statement

The fact that you willingly opt to misread plainly phrased sentiments -- for whatever reason -- is your own cross to bear, and none of my own. No "censorship" is "implied" anywhere in anything I wrote. Try again.

I have voted for every Republican since Nixon's first run. How many primaries is that? I've seen every Republican, including Reagan, trash members of their own party.

Regardless of how many Republicans you claim to have voted for: I stand with Reagan's words, rather than your own.

Now, what do you say about the article and Ron Paul's words?

Which part of the Eleventh Commandment is it you're having trouble comprehending? I'll certainly attempt to help you, if I can.

[KDD]

Some truths are self evident.

You'd think.

[KDD]

If you don't care to debate the article because of some secular "11th commandment" given to you by your godly overseers, then please refrain from addressing me at all. I am not interested in displays of youthful blind dogma.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

If you don't care to debate the article because of some secular "11th commandment" given to you by your godly overseers, then please refrain from addressing me at all. I am not interested in displays of youthful blind dogma.

(1.) YOU fired the opening salvo at ME; not the other way around. Don't play the grievously wounded prima donna with me, please. It makes me laugh, and irritates my cold sore.

(2.) Sorry the words of Ronald Reagan upset you so. You wouldn't expect that, really, from any true, self-confessed "conservative." Hmmmmmm.

(3.) Five bucks says I'm at least ten years older than you, at barest minimum. You claim to "have voted for every republican since Nixon's run." I predate that, by a considerable margin.

[B4Ranch]

Give me a few to find it again, please.