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To: Sloth
"How is that MY problem, thus involving MY money?"

Well if you call yourself a conservative and maybe a christian, I do believe that we all have a duty to help one another out. Why are you complaining about medicare and your money when the government spends so much money on needless things--like aroma therapy, monies sent to the UN, monies sent to Palestine, monies spent in congressional salaries. there are more and more instances where monies should not be spent. But your idea of doing away with medicare might be right but it is not done overnite. It takes a little bit at a time--chipping away at the infrastructure. With medicare kept within private enterprise and with monies spent (which you have been spending since you first got your first paycheck for hospital and doctor payments, and medical supplies, etc spent ina more efficient manner)perhaps there will be a change. REmember, change takes time and unless you trust your president (which I know you don't) then you will not see the whole picture. Trust me, give an inch of medicare monies to private enterprise and not to government and then we will be heading toward less government.

And you really think that we as conservatives would do better with a democratic president. HUh!?? The whole fight boils down to what judges do in interpreting the constitution. Get liberal judges and all your conservative views and believes will be nothing but memories. Look at the whole picture. Under Clinton--more taxes and the republican run congress could not change it, under CLinton vetoed partial birth ban and the republican run congress could not change it, under Clinton liberal SC judges and the republican controlled congress could do nothing about it. Get real, The captain the boss is the head--get rid of the head and the rest of the body suffers.

Support the president--keep him on tract with conservatism, but don't walk away into the open arms of the liberals. You only hurt yourself and me and the rest of us fighting to prevent liberal views.
354 posted on 02/01/2004 12:01:05 PM PST by olliemb
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To: olliemb
But your idea of doing away with medicare might be right but it is not done overnite. It takes a little bit at a time--chipping away at the infrastructure. With medicare kept within private enterprise and with monies spent (which you have been spending since you first got your first paycheck for hospital and doctor payments, and medical supplies, etc spent ina more efficient manner)perhaps there will be a change.

I don't see why it needs to be that complicated. I'm all in favor of a gradual elimination of Medicare, too. Seems to me the most obvious way to do it gradually is simply to gradually decrease the size ($) of the program till it gets to zero.

364 posted on 02/01/2004 1:37:06 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: olliemb
Well if you call yourself a conservative and maybe a christian, I do believe that we all have a duty to help one another out.

I am both. "Christian duty" was the same nonsense our RINO governor in Alabama gave last year for his massive proposed (and failed) tax increase. It's garbage. Using the force of government to compel people to do what you think are good works, at gunpoint, is NOT Christian charity.

Why are you complaining about medicare and your money when the government spends so much money on needless things--like aroma therapy, monies sent to the UN, monies sent to Palestine, monies spent in congressional salaries.

Huh? YOU are the one that brought up Medicare, IIRC. It's no worse, in my opinion, than any of these other things that you list (except for congressional salaries, which are at least constitutional, if inflated).

But your idea of doing away with medicare might be right but it is not done overnite.

I don't expect it to be done overnight. The U.S. has a responsibility to give the benefits to those from whom they've been withholding the Medicare premiums all these years. I'm willing to pay taxes to do that. But a massive spending increase is NOT incrementalism to the right but the left, I don't care how you want to spin it.

REmember, change takes time and unless you trust your president (which I know you don't) then you will not see the whole picture.

I used to trust the President. Go dig up my posts from 3 years ago if you doubt that.

Trust me, give an inch of medicare monies to private enterprise and not to government and then we will be heading toward less government.

Pure fantasy. In 1999, President Clinton proposed investing a significant portion of Social Security in private stocks -- are you telling me he was a proponent of smaller government?

And you really think that we as conservatives would do better with a democratic president. HUh!??

Only on some things, not on others. The issue of judicial appointments is certainly the biggest drawback of having a DemonRat president.

Support the president--keep him on tract with conservatism, but don't walk away into the open arms of the liberals. You only hurt yourself and me and the rest of us fighting to prevent liberal views.

Many here are fighting to prevent liberal Democrat views. They are prefectly happy to support liberalism if the proponent has an '(R)' next to his name.

424 posted on 02/01/2004 4:55:45 PM PST by Sloth (It doesn't take 60 seats to control the Senate; it only takes 102 testicles.)
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