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Maybe Bush is Right On
Intellectual Conservative ^ | 30 January 2004 | Raymond Green

Posted on 01/31/2004 6:27:08 PM PST by softengine

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To: Austin Willard Wright
Democrats which you are one Have NO CONSCIENCE!! You are a slave to the Deoncrat Party and you, my dear sir or madam, live on that PLANTATION! How long is your chain??
481 posted on 02/04/2004 8:20:22 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Agamemnon
A SINGLE post?

Yes. The poster made a comment, and you responded to it by declaring "checkmate". This ain't rocket science, bud.

My compliments to you on your imaginative theatrical writing style, by the way. You really know how to express your emotions. By all means, keep imagining I'm the one who's ego is bruised, when you're the one who had to retreat to your childhood to conjure up an image of some doll to get your aggressions out. I'm sure you wish you had that doll around now, since that's about the only thing you can tackle.

Like I said, our transcript speaks for itself.

482 posted on 02/04/2004 8:32:26 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: Constantine XIII
Wonder if these guys even realize that they are part of the problem?

I think what blinds them most is typically a single-issue, driving a self-importance pining in search of affirmation from other conservative bretheren. They sit around in self-validating in-bred little clotches and discussion groups, are often found publishing tin-foil rags which quote each other amongst themselves. A sense of objectivity is driven from their midst, which ultimately leads to self-contradiction, much like "inquest" has demonstrated here already. They ultimately suffer from a mistaken, unrequited, fringe-like "messiah" complex.

Study the type of person that makes up of the membership of the declining John Birch Society. CP-ers are dead ringers for this kind of mentality, and thoroughly useless to the cause of promoting conservative thought in the main-stream, because they don't want to be mainstream. Deep down inside they think they are better than Reagan-style conservatives. Again, it harkens back to that psycho-self-importance validation need again.

Their slogan might read something like "We know we're winning, because we're losing!" The good just becomes the enemy of the perfect, and CP-ers ultimately only excell at their own intellectual self-immolation.

483 posted on 02/04/2004 8:44:58 PM PST by Agamemnon
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To: softengine
Much has been said about the Bush administration’s handling of sensitive issues to conservatives like illegal immigration

Funny. I hear so many Californians complain about the government's refusal to stop the trespassing at the border, that I had come to see it as a "sensitive issue to American citizens". But what could I know, seeing as I don't see the wisdom of having the southwest converted into a multilingual multicultural third world barrio. Maybe Karl Rove can explain it, in espanol.

484 posted on 02/04/2004 9:28:06 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Ophiucus
Anyone born in the U.S. is a citizen - it's been that way since the ratification of the Constitution.

No passing grade for you. Try again.

485 posted on 02/04/2004 9:34:11 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Agamemnon
Running to another poster to tell your problems to isn't going to help you. And your projection of your inconsistencies onto me is reaching pathological proportions. Just to bring you face-to-face with them, here's a recap:
-Your insistence that the CP represents a mortal threat to the Republicans, yet that the Republicans have no interest in wooing them

-Your giving credit to Bush for co-opting issues of importance to the Democrats, but refusing to let him take the blame for the resultant leftward slide

-And most eye-poppingly, your citation of Bill Clinton as the best thing for conservatism, even better than Bush, while saying that Bush must not be allowed to be defeated, at all costs.

You just can't run from the truth, pal.
486 posted on 02/04/2004 10:21:46 PM PST by inquest (The only problem with partisanship is that it leads to bipartisanship)
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To: Pelham
No passing grade for you. Try again.

You're probably thinking of the 14th Amendment, created to give blacks the right to vote and to tie up loose ends in the Reconstruction as electors, un-Reconstructed rebels, Civil War debt, etc.

Previously to that, the U.S. followed jus soli rule of law which places citizenship upon place of birth, hence the "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President" clause of qualifications for President.

Someone born in New York in 1790 was a US Citizen by the legal tradition that birth determined citizenship. That is the understood legal foundation. The Constitution implicitly recognized two modes for citizenship - jus soli and naturalization, Article I, Section 8. Later amendments modified and spelled out aspects, including a limited jus sanguinis of those born to American citizens living abroad.

"The Constitution of the United States does not declare who are and who are not citizens, nor does it attempt to describe the constituent elements of citizenship; it leaves that quality where it found it, resting on the fact of home birth and upon the laws of the several States." opinion of the US Attorney General, 1862, quoted in A Treatise on American Citizenship, John Wise, 1906.

487 posted on 02/04/2004 10:23:52 PM PST by Ophiucus
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