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California: Yes on Prop. 56. Loosen the supermajority straitjacket
Sacramento Bee ^
| Bee Editorial Staff
Posted on 01/31/2004 6:07:46 AM PST by John Jorsett
Edited on 04/12/2004 6:04:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Remember how angry you were when the Legislature failed to pass a budget on time last summer? Maybe you were angry, too, about the late budget the summer before that. How about in 2001 or 1998 or 1997 or 1996 or 1995 or any of the 22 times in the last 28 years that the Legislature missed its constitutional deadline for passing a state budget?
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TOPICS: Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; california; prop56; proposition56; supermajority
The only reason we don't get a tax increase each year is the supermajority requirement. The state has already spent itself into near-bankruptcy, and that's with the minor discipline imposed by the two-thirds requirement. Now these bozos think we should remove even that. Giving the people who got us here even more power is the most idiotic proposal I've heard in a while.
To: John Jorsett
The Supermajority requirements are the only thing keeping the socialists (Democrat majority) from confiscating all of the assets of the rich (people who work) to give to Kalifornia's future (Illegal Aliens).
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posted on
01/31/2004 6:21:04 AM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
To: John Jorsett
California is not only a large state in area, it is also have distinctly different political sections. The west cost metropolitan areas, the north, the east. It is a very reasonable and practical idea to break California up into more than one state. The majority of the population is in and near the west coast cities, the other people do not get a voice in a straight out vote, their interests are not represented as well, as the cities vote, that's how California goes.
To: John Jorsett
A sinking ship.
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posted on
01/31/2004 6:21:54 AM PST
by
ItisaReligionofPeace
(I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
To: John Jorsett
"Remember how angry you were when the Legislature failed to pass a budget on time last summer?" Strange, I don't remember being particularly angry. I was elated. But of course, this is the Bee dropping more bee poop on the gullible readers. Put the loonie RATS in straight jackets and put the adults in charge and we might get sanity again in Government.
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posted on
01/31/2004 6:23:55 AM PST
by
Enterprise
("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
To: Mike Darancette
The arrogance of the Bee editorial staff is extraordinary. I intend to vote NO!
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posted on
01/31/2004 6:26:20 AM PST
by
Enterprise
("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
To: John Jorsett
We should not only give em a credit card but the keys to the bank account! The editors of the Sacramento Bee must think we're terminally incapable of understanding what the Democrats in Sacramento really want: the power to be able to raise taxes to the sky's the limit. The good government provisions in Proposition 56 is fluff designed to conceal the poison pill at the heart of it. Don't be fooled.
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posted on
01/31/2004 6:29:54 AM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: John Jorsett; Joe Brower
I have a great idea. How about if the legislators can't submit
new legislastion until the bills are paid?
Thik of all the idiocy we could belay?
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posted on
01/31/2004 6:46:51 AM PST
by
risk
To: John Jorsett
What's wrong with never passing a budget again?
That way, we just keep running with last year's budget, which represents lower spending than this year's, right?
Far as I'm concerned, the later the budget is, the better.
D
To: John Jorsett
We have an incompetent, irresponsible cabal of politicians that spend money like drunken sailors and we should make it easier for them? Right. I think it would be better to shut down the state legislature and send them all to rehab.
10
posted on
01/31/2004 7:36:59 AM PST
by
paul51
To: John Jorsett
The better solution is to cap spending if they can't get a supermajority.
This is a ploy to give the Dims more power.
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posted on
01/31/2004 7:50:14 AM PST
by
George W. Bush
(It's the Congress, stupid.)
To: risk
I like response #8. Consider also changing the Kalifornia legislature from full-time to part-time - say, thirty working days. And make it imperative that they get the budget through before any other bills get attended to. Watch 'em squawk then watch 'em walk...SSZ
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posted on
01/31/2004 8:00:19 AM PST
by
szweig
To: John Jorsett
Voting yes on this will guarantee an increase in taxes. This proposition must be defeated.
To: Mike Darancette
"The Supermajority requirements are the only thing keeping the socialists (Democrat majority) from confiscating all of the assets of the rich (people who work) to give to Kalifornia's future (Illegal Aliens)." Perfectly stated...
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posted on
01/31/2004 9:46:23 AM PST
by
telebob
To: szweig
No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session. --Mark Twain (1866)
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posted on
01/31/2004 3:16:32 PM PST
by
risk
To: John Jorsett
The people who complain about "gridlock" are the ones who have radical ambitions that have no hope of becoming consensus goals. Every time I hear a complaint of "gridlock," the phrase that flashes in my mind is, "constitution working as intended!"
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
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