Stick With President Bush In November (Good Reasons NOT To Stay At Home) (My Title)

Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 01/31/04 | Henry Lamb

[DollyCali]

Hi.. just in from an evening of Show Choir competition.. why do I mention that>>>> well, it was a new, refreshing experience to me.

FR has been the same. I appreciate the "mental stretching" and the knowledge shared. I will never claim to be the mental giant regarding the political / historical realm. Nor do I claim the same with computers..

but funny.. I find that I can utilize computers without all the background because I trust those who have gone before me & have laid the groundwork & given me instruction.

Same with my political agenda. No I don't know every name, city, problem, victory.

But I do know good vs evil. I can see positive results.

Is our president perfect.. heck no!!!

Is he the right man for now? H**l yes!!!!

God bless GWB & may those of courage stand with him.

And btw.. I am not a flyweight intellectually. Mensa for starters.. and not an ivory tower mens. I have my areas of expertise..

I thank all for their input & ideas. I know we have differences. But I PRAY that we will see that this man is good & really is doing what he feels is best for the USA at this point.

I will work my heart & soul to see him re- elected. I pray for his safety & for his wisdom to come from God. I truly believe he is God's choice at this time for our people.

I do NOT have all the answers, just like you, opinions based on information, gut feeling & enthusiasm.

Hey, what are we both doing up so late???

*G*

[NittanyLion]

Hehehe...I was just giving you a hard time. I'm actually living in Virginia at the moment, but I used to live in Chester County. I ran in Valley Forge almost every week for a couple years (including in the winter). When you spend an hour or two running through those gusting winds, it gives you a renewed appreciation for what those soldiers survived for an entire winter.

Simply amazing.

[NittanyLion]

I said that was the most important to me.

Me too. It has to be, at this point.

Certainly, there are other important issues as well. Most of those issues I tend to agree with President Bush on. There will never be a politician with whom I can agree on everything. But on most of the issues that are important to me, I agree with President Bush.

Okay, let's have a look...

I believe Saddam, at the very least, was a threat to his own people and we are all better off without him.

Me too, but I tend to categorize that as foreign policy/WOT. I already agree with virtually everything he's done in that regard.

I believe that it is very important that children gain basic knowledge at a young age because it becomes increasingly difficult to learn as you get older.

Who doesn't? I suspect every singly American agrees with that; the difference in opinions come when determining how best to meet that goal. My personal opinion is that school systems run at the local level fare best - hence my disagreement with the No Child Left Behind Act. Federal money hurts the education system, because beauracrats in DC don't know what kids in the 50 states need. What do you think on that account?

I believe that President Bush's tax cuts have worked since the economy is continuing to grow.

Again, I suspect virtually every conservative believes that as well - it's a pretty basic tenet of economics. I want to see more tax cuts long-term, because they'll have the same effect. But how will that happen when we continue to experience unrestrained growth, and have a deficit of $500 billion? That provides liberals with ammo to defeat tax cuts, and that's the problem I have with this administration. Do you agree?

I believe that life starts at conception and that abortions are murder.

What conservative doesn't? But again, that doesn't account for the details. Anyone can agree on very generic statements of policy, but when we get down to actually implementing them, that's where disagreements surface. Know what I mean?

[WhiteGuy]

Will everybody please remember that the immigration thoughts put out there by Pres. Bush is a PROPOSAL?

If this "proposal" is what the president believes, he is a big part of the problem.

If it is not what he believes, he is a lying sack of poop.

[chris1]

Very simply. a lot of the people who have been collecting SS for years did not pay the same percentage of income into the program and also did not have anywhere near the salaries that many have today. |Plus, since SS is a sham, a farce, a lie, and only is a pay as you go system, the money these folks put in was not put into a trust where is could compound interest for the payments in later years. SS is such a disaster from a fiscal point of view, it is almost embarassing that the program is still in its present form.

[ilovew]

**My personal opinion is that school systems run at the local level fare best - hence my disagreement with the No Child Left Behind Act. Federal money hurts the education system**
Well, that's where we differ. I believe that President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act is making sure that children learn the basics at a young age. I've gone to school with people who still don't know the order of the months. It amazes me that they ever made it beyond elementary school. Clearly the local level isn't doing their job.
**But how will that happen when we continue to experience unrestrained growth, and have a deficit of $500 billion?**
Since President Bush has a plan for cutting the deficit in half over the next five years, I am not currently concerned about the deficit. If his plan does not seem to succeed over the next few years, then I would be concerned.
**Anyone can agree on very generic statements of policy, but when we get down to actually implementing them, that's where disagreements surface.**
But again, President Bush has done something on that regard as well. I completely agree with his decision to ban partial-birth abortion and the fact that it was ever in existence seriously disturbs me. I am very worried about that, in particular, because I know that if a liberal is elected, the first thing that will go is the ban on partial-birth abortion.

[NittanyLion]

Well, that's where we differ. I believe that President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act is making sure that children learn the basics at a young age. I've gone to school with people who still don't know the order of the months. It amazes me that they ever made it beyond elementary school. Clearly the local level isn't doing their job.

Based on history, what makes you think the federal government will succeed where local government has failed? Can you cite instances where removing the decision-making power from the people most impacted has EVER ended in success? The answer lies in revamping the system - not trying to take control of it at the federal level.

As to the mechanics of the NCLBA, do you realize how contorted the process is for complying with the Act and receiving federal grants. Administrators are beginning to devise workarounds rather than comply with the bureaucracy the Act has created. You see, it sounds good on the surface, but in practice the Act has created unintended consequences. That's what happens when you centralize government power and allow lifelong bureaucrats to run the show.

Since President Bush has a plan for cutting the deficit in half over the next five years, I am not currently concerned about the deficit. If his plan does not seem to succeed over the next few years, then I would be concerned.

Given his inability to exert any control to this point, what makes you think he'll suddenly be able to halve the deficit? For that matter, can you cite some specifics of The Plan? I've seen some generic throwaway statements concerning control of spending, but nothing of any substance. I have a hard time taking this administration at its word after seeing three years of action to the contrary.

[ilovew]

**Based on history, what makes you think the federal government will succeed where local government has failed?**
I think, at the very least, I should give them a chance. The local governments refuse to take responsibility. President Bush is stepping up and taking responsibility. He has a plan. I think it's too soon to be able to tell precisely how it is working.
**Administrators are beginning to devise workarounds rather than comply with the bureaucracy the Act has created.**
That's hardly President Bush's fault. Perhaps the Act should be revised to rid itself of these loopholes.
**Given his inability to exert any control to this point, what makes you think he'll suddenly be able to halve the deficit?**
I don't believe you can blame the President for the aftereffects of 9/11. A large portion of the deficit has come from fighting the War on Terror and homeland security, not from any lack on President Bush's part to control spending.
**For that matter, can you cite some specifics of The
Plan?**
I believe the plan is being released tomorrow. We will have to wait until then to see the specifics.

[NittanyLion]

I think, at the very least, I should give them a chance.

After three years of chances, we've seen the largest increase in entitlement programs since LBJ. How long is it appropriate to wait before voicing skepticism, in your view?

The local governments refuse to take responsibility.

In what regard? Local governments all over the nation take plenty of responsibility. I need some examples if you're going to make overly general assertions of this type.

President Bush is stepping up and taking responsibility. He has a plan. I think it's too soon to be able to tell precisely how it is working.

This is The Plan he's releasing tomorrow? Presumably, it isn't working at all if it hasn't yet been proposed, right? You're obviously counting very heavily on The Plan - have you heard anything whatsoever about what The Plan might contain?

That's hardly President Bush's fault. Perhaps the Act should be revised to rid itself of these loopholes.

Federal legislation has a long history of creating massive bureaucracies. Workarounds and loopholes are an easily foreseeable consequence of a centralized, one-size-fits-all approach. Centralization never has and never will work when it comes to governmental power. Show me an instance where it has...

I don't believe you can blame the President for the aftereffects of 9/11. A large portion of the deficit has come from fighting the War on Terror and homeland security, not from any lack on President Bush's part to control spending.

Discretionary spending has increased 6-7% annually since Bush took office, and that's after the impact of Homeland Security endeavors is removed from the numbers. Certainly you'd agree he shares the blame for that, right? We also have a brand new Education Bill, Farm Bill and Prescription Drug Bill advocated strongly by this administration. New entitlements that will cost trillions over the next 10 years. Whose fault is that? Those initiatives surely aren't fighting terror, are they?

I believe the plan is being released tomorrow. We will have to wait until then to see the specifics.

I can hardly wait to see how The Plan will save us all, Dr. Ferr...err...ilovew.

[ilovew]

Clearly there's nothing I can say that you won't argue with. I do not have infinite patience, I'm sorry to say. My support for President Bush will not change, regardless of what you say. Obviously your disdain for him will not change, regardless of what I say. I believe we are at a standstill and going nowhere fast.

[texasflower]

If you plan to vote democrat, wouldn't you be happier somewhere else?

Really, why is it that you bring all of this stuff over here?

[Joe Hadenuf]

I tire of the two party "party".

When I see a real conservative candidate, that will put America, and American's first, every time, all the time, I'll go vote for him.

[texasflower]

Good post.

[ilovew]

I love your little box. That's funny!

[NittanyLion]

Clearly there's nothing I can say that you won't argue with.

I guess I'm unclear on your expectations. Am I to let your assertions go unchallenged by fact? Say something with which I agree, and you'll get no argument.

I do not have infinite patience, I'm sorry to say.

Oh. Okay.

My support for President Bush will not change, regardless of what you say.

That's certainly your prerogative. I only hope my comments here have helped some other folks to challenge their beliefs that this administration is right on domestic policy, even if you're unconvinced.

Obviously your disdain for him will not change, regardless of what I say.

Why do you believe I "disdain" the man? Because I haven't simply accepted all his actions without any critical response? I still support him, but that doesn't mean I support 100% of his positions...surely you can see that distinction?

I believe we are at a standstill and going nowhere fast.

I'm perfectly happy to continue the discussion, starting with The Plan. You're holding this out as Bush's saving grace, yet I've heard absolutely nothing about it. What should I expect when it's unveiled?

[texasflower]

If you lived somewhere where you had to experience the results of these invaders, you would understand the huge negative impact that they are having on this country.

I live in one of these areas. I have lived in Texas all my life.

You guys that are trying to get everyone worked up are greatly exaggerating the problem. In 45 years I have seen an awful lot and I will say without hesitation that things are not as bad as you and your friends make them out to be.

You are making more out of this issue than necessary.

The vast majority of things that this President has done over three years has been outstanding.

Maybe someday you guys can create a Stepford President, in a Stepford country.
As for me, my vote will be going to President George W. Bush.

[texasflower]

Thank you. I have tons more that are along the same lines.

[ilovew]

**I still support him, but that doesn't mean I support 100% of his positions...surely you can see that distinction?**
Certainly. I don't support all of his positions either. It's about the most important positions and I agree with President Bush on most of them, as I have said earlier.
**I'm perfectly happy to continue the discussion, starting with The Plan. You're holding this out as Bush's saving grace, yet I've heard absolutely nothing about it.**
Quite honestly, I don't care much about this plan. I was merely pointing out that he had one. I don't particularly have that much concern about the deficit. Perhaps I'm too young to understand the implications.

[gatorbait]

You are making more out of this issue than necessary. The vast majority of things that this President has done over three years has been outstanding. Maybe someday you guys can create a Stepford President, in a Stepford country.

They always make out it is the apocalypse;it's how they function.If they can destroy themselves and everyone around them, so much the better.They can't even tell, or refuse to see, the difference between a proposal and a law. They are either willfully ignorant or suicidally malicious.One thing certain,if Bush were to be seen next to Jesus Christ, they'd bitch and whine because the Father and Holy Spirit weren't there, too.

[ilovew]

**One thing certain,if Bush were to be seen next to Jesus Christ, they'd bitch and whine because the Father and Holy Spirit weren't there, too.**
Lol! Very clever! :)