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Global Chillin
New York Times | New York Times

Posted on 01/31/2004 3:22:02 AM PST by I_love_weather

Global Chilling By PAUL R. EPSTEIN

Published: January 28, 2004

OSTON — It seemed incongruous when former Vice President Al Gore gave a speech on global warming on a bitterly cold day in New York City this month. But in fact it was an appropriate topic: New Yorkers may be able to blame the city's current cold spell — the most severe in nearly a decade — on global warming.

Global warming doesn't mean that every place on the globe gets warmer. The weather history that can be read in polar ice-core samples indicates that previous periods of warming affected North America and Europe far differently than they did the tropics — the Northern Hemisphere got a lot colder.

It's far too early to say for sure, but the same processes may be at work today. In the past 50 years, the top two miles of the world's oceans have warmed significantly, and that warming is melting sea ice. In just four decades, the thickness of summer North Polar floating ice shrank 44 percent. In addition, warming makes droughts drier and longer, and when the evaporated water returns to earth it does so in heavier downpours.

Normally, water circulates in the North Atlantic like this: Cold, salty water at the top sinks; that sinking water acts as a pump, pulling warm Gulf Stream water north and thus moderating winter weather. But now, fresh water from the thawing ice and heavier rain is accumulating near the ocean's surface; it's not sinking as quickly. (The tropics are faced with the opposite phenomenon. According to Dr. Ruth Curry and her colleagues at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, the tropical Atlantic is becoming saltier; as warming increases, so does evaporation, which leaves behind salt.) The "freshening" in the North Atlantic may be contributing to a high-pressure system that is accelerating trans-Atlantic winds and deflecting the jet stream — changes that may be driving frigid fronts down the Eastern Seaboard. The ice-core records demonstrate that the North Atlantic can freshen to a point where the deep-water pump fails, warm water stops coming north, and the northern ocean suddenly freezes, as it did in the last Ice Age. No one can say if that is what will happen next. But since the 1950's, the best documented deep-water pump, between Iceland and Scotland, has slowed 20 percent.

Why now? After all, the planet's previous periods of global warming resulted from changes in the earth's tilt toward the sun, and recent calculations of these cycles indicate that our hospitable climate was not due to have ended any time soon. But because of the warming brought by the buildup of carbon dioxide, mainly from the burning of fossil fuels, the equations have changed. We are entering uncharted waters. It's something for New Yorkers to ponder as they bundle up


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KEYWORDS: coldweather; globalcooling
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To: Broadside Joe
According to National Geographic, CO2 has varied between .033 percent and .036 percent of the atmosphere.

It was projected to be many times higher than that by now but it didn't happen. They are trying now to figure out where all the projected CO2 went.

41 posted on 01/31/2004 8:54:01 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: I_love_weather
According to the National Geographic, the CO2 level in the atmosphere has varied between .033 percent and .036 percent.

It was projected to be much higher than that by now. It didn't happen. They are now trying to determine where all the extra CO2 went.

The level is not increasing.

42 posted on 01/31/2004 8:59:59 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)
Well I guess we willl sit back and watch and see who is right.

Good luck with your ventures :)
43 posted on 01/31/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: I_love_weather
It wasn't my measurements. The national geographic is a greenie. They are mystified as to why their computer model is wrong.

Everyone else who has a computer model is wrong also.

If the actual measurements are not changing, (the percent has gone down as well as up, you know "varied") then the whole basis for their computer model is in question.

44 posted on 01/31/2004 9:47:06 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)
NOAH
45 posted on 01/31/2004 9:48:40 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: I_love_weather
All of this would be of no interest to me...had it not been for a series of dreams and visions that I have had over the past year. Something big is coming :) believe it or not! :)

I would just as soon go on with life as normal...

Funny thing is I have met a number of people who have had the same dreams and visions...scary huh :)

NOw you can officially put me in the kook category and be done with it :)

46 posted on 01/31/2004 10:08:52 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: I_love_weather
The sad part is my track record with these dreams and visions is 100%

Perhaps God have some people a gift for some reason they do not understand...because I certainly don't.

I forsaw 9/11
I forsaw a killer F4 tornado
I forsaw several earthquakes
I forsaw several middle east events...

I don't wish this forsaw stuff on anyone and I think it is weird...but that is life.


What I forsee is not good...there is a global catastrophe coming...and coming soon.

47 posted on 01/31/2004 10:18:32 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: I_love_weather
"What I forsee is not good...there is a global catastrophe coming...and coming soon."

And even if that were true, it has all happened before.
48 posted on 01/31/2004 10:28:59 AM PST by Broadside Joe
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To: Broadside Joe
"And even if that were true, it has all happened before."

Boy, THAT's the truth. Think about the effects of the end of the last Ice Age, when sea level REALLY DID increase by a huge amount.

49 posted on 01/31/2004 12:02:16 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: theFIRMbss
That frozen NYC pic ... was that taken today?
50 posted on 01/31/2004 12:46:24 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: I_love_weather
"All of this would be of no interest to me...had it not been for a series of dreams and visions that I have had over the past year. Something big is coming :) believe it or not! :) "

I suggest not eating pepperoni pizza immediately before bedtime.

51 posted on 01/31/2004 4:09:08 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: I_love_weather
"All of this would be of no interest to me...had it not been for a series of dreams and visions that I have had over the past year. Something big is coming :) believe it or not! :) "

I suggest not eating pepperoni pizza immediately before bedtime.

52 posted on 01/31/2004 4:10:27 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Think about the effects of the end of the last Ice Age, when sea level REALLY DID increase by a huge amount."


Yes I would be swimming in the middle of an inland sea. I bet the fishing was good though. :)




53 posted on 01/31/2004 4:42:46 PM PST by Broadside Joe
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