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German Cannibal Gets Prison Sentence (my comment: only 8 years!)
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040130/D80D8SHG0.html ^
Posted on 01/30/2004 6:15:44 PM PST by Joe Republc
German Cannibal Gets Prison Sentence
Jan 30, 12:03 PM (ET)
By FRANK LETH
(AP) Defendant Armin Meiwes, right, stands next to his lawyer Harald Ermel, left, in the district court... Full Image
KASSEL, Germany (AP) - A German was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 8 1/2 years in prison Friday for killing, dismembering and eating another man who allegedly agreed to the arrangement over the Internet.
Armin Meiwes, a 42-year-old computer expert, had no "base motives" in the crime, a state court ruled, sparing him a murder conviction. Explaining the verdict, the presiding judge said Meiwes' intention was not evil but "the fulfillment of his fantasy."
His primary motive was "the wish to make another man part of himself," Judge Volker Muetze said. "Meiwes reached this bonding experience through the consumption of the flesh."
Prosecutors had sought a life sentence, calling Meiwes a "human butcher" who acted simply to "satisfy a sexual impulse." They said they would appeal.
(AP) Bernd Juergen B., a 43-year-old man from Berlin, is seen in an undated file photo released by... Full Image
The defense argued that since the victim volunteered to be killed and eaten, the crime should be classified a mercy killing, which carries a five-year maximum penalty.
Before the verdict, Meiwes looked calm, chatting with his attorney and occasionally grinning for cameras allowed inside the courtroom. After the sentence was read, he shook his lawyer's hand and nodded curtly to the photographers.
When his trial opened Dec. 3 in the central city of Kassel, Meiwes confessed in detail to killing Bernd Juergen Brandes, 43, in March 2001 at Meiwes' home in the town of Rotenburg.
Brandes traveled from Berlin in reply to an Internet advertisement seeking a young man for "slaughter and consumption." Meiwes testified that Brandes wanted to be stabbed to death after drinking a bottle of cold medicine to lose consciousness.
"Bernd came to me of his own free will to end his life," Meiwes said in his closing statement in court Monday. "For him, it was a nice death."
(AP) Defendant Armin Meiwes, front left, sits next to his lawyer Harald Ermel, front right, at a... Full Image
Still, he said he regretted the killing.
"I had my big kick and I don't need to do it again," he said. "I regret it all very much, but I can't undo it."
A video he made of the act was shown to the court during a closed session.
A doctor testified that Brandes died from loss of blood and that the medication, along with a half-bottle of liquor and 20 sleeping pills he took beforehand, could not have lessened his pain.
Several experts have testified that Meiwes was fit to stand trial and was not mentally ill.
Police tracked down and arrested him in December 2002 after a student in Austria alerted them to a message Meiwes had posted on the Internet.
"If I hadn't been so stupid as to keep looking on the Internet, I would have taken my secret to the grave," Meiwes said in his closing statement.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Germany
KEYWORDS: cannibal; cannibalism; deathcultivation; gerany; german
Only eight years!
"...the presiding judge said Meiwes' intention was not evil but "the fulfillment of his fantasy."
Yikes!
-- Joe
To: Joe Republc
Explaining the verdict, the presiding judge said Meiwes' intention was not evil but "the fulfillment of his fantasy." Where, oh where do I begin?
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:17:10 PM PST
by
wimpycat
("Black holes are where God divided by zero.")
To: Joe Republc
Not even long enough to cause indigestion.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:17:16 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
To: Joe Republc
This is dreadful. He'll get out in eight years or less if he behaves, I suppose, and do something worse, only for the life of me I can't figure out what that might be.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:18:59 PM PST
by
hershey
To: xzins
The German culture is truly lost.
To: hershey
Oh, what are you worried about? He wanted to do it, he did it, and he got it out of his system...literally and figuratively.
"I had my big kick and I don't need to do it again," he said.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:20:52 PM PST
by
wimpycat
("Black holes are where God divided by zero.")
To: hershey
He will only have to serve 41/2 years according to German newspapers.
They believe that being socialists they have a mantra of being kind to killers. If you rape someone you will probably only get probation, that's all in their country.
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: Joe Republc
Its his body. He can serve it to someone for food if he wants. Who are we to decide what a person does with their own body?? This will put a womans right to choose at risk!
/sarcasm
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:24:11 PM PST
by
GeronL
(www.ArmorforCongress.com ............... Support a FReeper for Congress)
To: Joe Republc
"no base motives"
I thought I understood the meaning of the term "base", but I guess I didn't.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:30:09 PM PST
by
WayneM
(Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan). Call your elected officials and say "NO!!")
To: Joe Republc
Where is the " sexual " part of the fantasy, Im at a loss
here.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:31:35 PM PST
by
claptrap
To: Joe Republc
After all what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is not the states business. They entered into a contract didn't they?
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:31:53 PM PST
by
AEMILIUS PAULUS
(Further, the statement assumed)
Who gets to be his cellmate?
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:34:45 PM PST
by
Consort
To: kittymyrib
There's a very seamy side to Germany that's hidden beneath the bratwurst & beer.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:38:19 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
To: wimpycat
If you think about it, that mindset makes a weird kind of sense. They're living in a socialist fantasyland where all you have to do is 'make nice' to eradicate violence. Extrapolate that thinking, and whoopie! You've got Euroweenies on parade. And they think we're a dangerous country!
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:38:57 PM PST
by
hershey
To: americanbychoice
Europe is brain dead. That has to be it.
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posted on
01/30/2004 6:46:28 PM PST
by
hershey
To: Joe Republc
"If I hadn't been so stupid as to keep looking on the Internet, I would have taken my secret to the grave," Meiwes said in his closing statement. Umm, ... Oh, never mind!
To: kittymyrib
"Explaining the verdict, the presiding judge said Meiwes' intention was not evil but "the fulfillment of his fantasy...His primary motive was "the wish to make another man part of himself," Judge Volker Muetze said. "Meiwes reached this bonding experience through the consumption of the flesh."
The Germans are insane. The French deserve to be ruled by them.
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posted on
01/30/2004 7:19:21 PM PST
by
WorkingClassFilth
(DEFUND PBS & NPR - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
To: Joe Republc
Several experts have testified that Meiwes was fit to stand trial and was not mentally ill. I'd hate to know what they DO consider mentally ill.
His prison cell roomate had better be an insomniac.
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posted on
01/30/2004 8:27:40 PM PST
by
xJones
To: xJones
"Several experts have testified that Meiwes was fit to stand trial and was not mentally ill." Meiwes was using A-1 instead of Heinz 57. He's clearly insane.
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